OT - More on generation (sigh) but what is the alternative to coal?

I'd prefer a thorium reactor as that seems to hold promise of a thousand years of raw material availability. If it wasn't for the bomb programme taking precedence, we'd already have them in abundance and nothing for the greenies to get upset about.

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grimly4
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Ignore wind and solar for now. There has been zero meddling in the generation sector by Government for over two decades. It has been a totally free market with no restrictions AT ALL. None. The only 'interferance' has been confined to the transmission and distribution operators and their capital spend and the rate of return on capital.

Such a policy has resulted in only one fuel being used for new generation of any significance. That has led to a massive dependency on one imported fuel, from unstable areas of the world. We've moved from 'being at the mercy of militant miners' to being at the mercy of fuckwits like Putin and his thugs.

The whole setup is rotten to the core, and wind and solar just make the situation worse fuelled by peoples fear of nukes and by many greens who think think that solar or wind are the future. Wind and solar are the future, a dim future, dark, intermittent and deadly to the economy.

What is clear is that after two decades private enterpise has failed, miserably. They have lined their own pockets and not diversified sources of supply. The only realistic solution is government intervention. But the private sector won't like that, so f*ck 'em. Take the whole lot back into public hands at knockdown prices (1p in the pound or less) Use the military if necessary and then build generation that secures supplies for the forseeable future. from the public purse. Yes that smacks of some socialist central planning, but that is what it will take. Nothing less wlll be sufficient.

We must also:

1) Stop all build of wind and solar and revoke all FIT's immediately - all payments of REAL export to be made at a flat rate of 0.1p per kWh, take it or leave it. 2) Stick two fingers up at Europe on the Large Combustion Directive 3) Stick two fingers up at Kyoto 4) Ensure nukes are being popped out on a production line basis, in every major city across the UK (except Scotland, let them enter the new dark age along with their dipshit leader Alex 'Thrush' Salmond) 5) Expand the use of indigenous coal 6) Ensure a vastly reduced dependence on gas for power production, imported or otherwise.
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The Other Mike

A thousand years? surely that's what the Germans ought to be doing.

Merkel ought to grow her tash a bit more.

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The Other Mike

"Approved" is very long way from diggers making holes...

If we are going to lose 10GW of capacity in 2015 due the EU Combustion directive the lights will be going out.

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Dave Liquorice

It's also a long way from "NIMBYs and greenwashers" scuppering the plants. Private investors want quick and easy money and Nuclear does not give this.

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Mark

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grimly4

Now on iPlayer ...

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Andy Burns

Have they solved the graphite tube problem? Essentially that (apart from the disgrace of the UK not building a pilot plant instead of bleepin Domes, Monuments & White Elephants) is the only real stumbling block in terms of "not in at least proven decadal existence like current uranium PWR".

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js.b1

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