Always told about not putting paper in toilets in Greece. Surely if they had the will to do something then some sort of macerator / separator / shredder could be installed at the exit point of hotels, etc. I understand the wet wipes problem, but surely something could reduce the risk of blockages. Doe anyone know of something that could compare to what is needed?
At my place of work they appear to have large centralised macerations on every floor to handle the output from the toilets and sinks.
my understanding is that it's the internal pipe work that can't take the waste, not the street sewer (BICBW)
tim
Same in some parts of China - 3" internal pipes.
You *can* flush some paper down but it's a risk
The US used 3" pipes in many states. Every US hardware store stocks a toilet plunger! Our daughter defined the US system as, dump, flush, wipe, flush, wipe, flush, wipe, flush. Repeat as necessary. Her sister in law is known in the family as "Big Jobs" after one unfortunate experience of not following the pattern.
3" toilet wastes are occasionally found in the UK too, and building regs still allow a single WC on a 3" waste pipe, although I don't think you would find any new installation using 3" pipe for very many years now.
One reason is that much of Greece is on hard limestone with little topsoil, so digging trenches is hard work. The smaller the pipes, the smaller the trenches you have to dig. Smaller pipes block more easily, and can't take the extra volume.
As a result many sites are not on public sewerage - everybody has septic tanks. Even in villages and towns septic tanks are common. The non-paper rule then means they have to be emptied much less frequently. Plus it makes sense to have a convention, rather than every house having to have different rules.
Though the state of plumbing (or electrics or tiling or...) isn't particularly great as 'that's the way we've always done it'.
Theo
I'm not convinced that a 3" pipe needs much less work than a 4" pipe, particularly when you are already doing the trench for the 3" pipe.
Smaller pipes block more easily, and
But we don?t in fact see other places that do have septic tanks and community septic tanks ban the use of paper.
Plus it makes
No way am I having a bin full of shitty paper in the bathroom. Shit and jump straight in the shower works well enough for me
stuart noble wrote in news:WycPw.1153628$ snipped-for-privacy@fx44.am:
Agree - my standard operating procedure. The Cleaning Lady empties the bins and the hotel corridors have bags of shitty paper. The bags then get in the skips and the cats and flies get in.
If it was th eUK then the EU would have insisted we changed by now and we would be rushing to comply.
Although what possessed them to choose 50mm pipe as their standard is a mystery.
And just how do they clean their bums? Does every loo have a bidet or do they collect their shitty paper?
Tim
They collect the paper in a bin next to the loo.(with varying degrees of hygienic handling and disposal)
That must smell to high heaven in Greek temperatures surely?
Tim
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