OT: Double standards?

Oct 05, 2017 45 Replies
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Oh, you *are* an arse. Thanks for the confirmation.

*plonk*

While you're simply a very sad individual, who can never admit that you're wrong. Another keyboard warrior who resorts to insults when your claims to actual knowledge are shown for the hollow sham that they acually are.

Oh and BTW, you've forgotten to indicate that you've snipped those lines which prove conclusively that your claims concerning the availability of machine guns are totally wrong.

Good, run away coward. That will save you the trouble of posting any more of your pathetic *applause* posts; in response to any of my posts at least.

You've proved often enough that you're an opinionated fool and so the fact you could ever imagine that anyone would value your judgement concerning anything at all, is quite frankly, laughable beyond belief.

michael adams

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Yes its laughable. What they don't tell you of course is that in California you get a bigger sentence if you use a fake gun than you do a real one, I suspect that is because they can shoot you if its real and save the cost of a trial. also thestatistics suggest that most people get killed either by their own gun or one of another family member. Indeed there are a worrying number of children as young as three killing themselves or their parents accidentally by a gun left in a handbag etc with no safety engaged. Really they need to actually stop hiding themselves away behind the constitution on the right to bear arms and make sure that the arms they are able to bear can only be justified for self protection or if the belong to a hunting club etc. So often you find people just getting new guns for the heck of it and some are meant for warfare not simple protection and hunting. I mean where will it stop? Everyone driving around in a battle tank, perhaps. The oil companies would love that!

Brian

Very shortly, the only posts Huge will see on here will be his own. ;-)

He'll have to be very careful about which face he uses to post.

It still didn't stop this guy from getting together a load of high-fire weapons, though, and his was not a 'small value of ok'.

I see that there has been a run on bump-stops since there has been a mention if them being outlawed. I wonder why.

On 5 Oct 2017 10:01:46 GMT, Huge coalesced the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension...

Look up "Bump Stock". Apparently, that's what the Las Vegas gunman used to effectively convert his semi automatic weapon into a fully automatic, and they are legal.

Your use of humpty-dumpty wording noted.

So much wrongness. If you're going to talk about firearms you need to get your terminology right.

And I'm well aware what a bump stock is.

If you're going to argue by inventing words that mean whatever you want, you aren't worth arguing with.

It is a common misconception[20] that an individual must have a "Class 3 " in order to own NFA. An FFL is required as a prerequisite to become a Special Occupation Taxpayer (SOT):Class 1 importer, Class

2 manufacturer-dealer or Class 3 dealer in NFA, not an individual owner. There are generally three ways to own a NFA weapon: as an individual, through a gun trust, or as a Limited Liability Company (LLC). Legal possession of an NFA firearm by an individual requires transfer of registration within the NFA registry.

An individual owner does not need to be an NFA dealer to buy Title II. The sale and purchase of NFA is, however, taxed and regulated, as follows:

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For "common misconception" above, read "Huge is wrong yet again." But will never admit it.

As if that should come as any surprise to anyone.

Some people might claim it's unfair to point these things out when Huge has killfiled me, or at least so he's claimed, as he has now no way of defending himself.

I suppose I'll just have to live with that.

michael adams

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You know perfectly well what I meant, so live with it. He was able to amass a substantial collection of weapons that could maintain high rates of fire, and killed nearly 60 people and injured over 500 in a short time. So whatever the restrictions to ownership were, they didn't stop him. Nor were any other people who had guns with them able to stop him, putting a dent in the argument that everyone having weapons means they can defend themselves against somebody else with weapons.

It's very kind of you to attribute mind-reading powers to me, but I'm afraid I just have to go on what you write. And if it's full of makey-uppey words, especially when the real terminology has specific technical and legal meanings, then I'm afraid we can't communicate.

I also note that you're editing my text when you respond, so this correspondence is over.

ISTR hearing that guns were banned from this audience. Haven't yet heard the NRA saying publicly this is why so many were killed and injured.

A US gun supporter interviewed on TV yesterday defended things by saying knives kill in the UK. Perhaps he is a very skilled knife thrower by trade.

So what is the effective difference between a machine gun, and a semi-automatic with a bump stock and a big magazine?

I think almost everyone would describe that thing as a machine gun ...

semi-automatics can often be made fully automatic at home with simple tools, apparently

I think that semis are legitimate hunting weapons.

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is probably what you want to read to understand the issues.

Gun owners are very particular about calling their killing weapons by the correct name.

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