my discussions are sometimes being transferred to other forums?

them anymore...tough, one thread reappeared after a few days?!

ve never joned that forum) and I wonder why is this happening...

alternatives and none of them provide the ease of use of this format - and the 'new' Google format is just as bad.

Google Groups comes in for some stick but the ability to slide up and down a thread so that each contribution can be viewed immediately just does not exist elsewhere that I can find. The ability to have ten posts open at anyone time and view them with a slider is GG's major attribute IMO. Rob

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robgraham
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It DOES matter to you, because the problems you're describing have nothing to do with usenet, but are caused by the specific website you're using.

When you say you "post a message" what you've actually done is send its content to the web server that's running that website.

The webserver is presumably then posting the content to usenet (if it didn't do that then other parasitic websites will never be able to scrape it off any usenet server).

Presumably the webserver also keeps a copy for you to read later. But it might not do; it might rely on scraping a copy of the publically-distributed post off a usenet server later.

Whatever it does is no concern of anyone on uk.d-i-y.

This is a problem you need to take up with the people who run the website. It has nothing to do with us.

No, if you're using the part of google that searches websites then you will have found a copy of your post that's on a website. Remember that google doesn't see every website change instantly though.

But all these websites are not usenet.

A website - something you access with a browser via a URL like http://...

Any number of websites, that's to say webservers (computers) can grab content from usenet servers and re-present it via their own look & feel webpages to anyone.

But the information they are presenting on these sites is not theirs.

So complain to the webmaster of the site you are using.

And, as a matter of interest, where is the thing that you call "UKdiy"?

What URL is showing in your browser?

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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts

anymore...tough, one thread reappeared after a few days?!

never joned that forum) and I wonder why is this happening...

Google groups is itself screwed though. This thread does not show up in a search on Google groups at least when I try it from my machine.

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Martin Brown

Usenet is not a single server based protocol. It is a mesh of peer to peer servers using multiple communication technologies some of which existed before the internet was born, to distribute posts to a multiplicity of servers all of whom carry all the posts - eventually, in theory.

That web servers can provide a front end top that mesh is a fact, and they do.

If that side effect is exploited by others and misunderstood by noobs is simply the way it is.

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The Natural Philosopher

Usenet and email do not have to use the internet.

And in the ordinary course of

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The Natural Philosopher

d them anymore...tough, one thread reappeared after a few days?!

I've never joned that forum) and I wonder why is this happening...

+1

Jonathan

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Jonathan

Someone pointed out that I should complain where the problem started...that's exactly what I've done....for all my posts/replies I've used a similar link to this one:

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of you have verified that some of my threads sometimes cannot be found (thanks for bothering)...or can be found at certain times (like someone is switching them on/off at will?)...so I guess something is wrong with Google Groups.

This is a link related to UKDiy:

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far as I know UKdiy existed long before Google Groups (correct me if I'm wrong).

This is a link to this very thread from my PC:

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I don't link to certain threads directly (I just use a link I've used from past I land on GoogleGroups-UKDiy.

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swimmydeepo

exactly what I've done....for all my posts/replies I've used a similar link to this one:

(thanks for bothering)...or can be found at certain times (like someone is switching them on/off at will?)...so I guess something is wrong with Google Groups.

wrong).

Indeed. Google bought dejanews IIRC.

from past I land on GoogleGroups-UKDiy.

You cant really link to a usenet post directly anyway since it doesn't have a unique URL.

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The Natural Philosopher

snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk was thinking very hard :

*stop* *using* *googlegroups,* *diybanter* *or* *any* *of* *the* *other* *web-based* *offerings* *and* *use* *a* *proper* *usenet* *newsreader* *FFS!!*
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John

For clarification would you explain what you mean by UKDiy?

What web site are you looking at?

Do you understand that most of us don't even use a web browser for reading and writing these messages?

No offence, but I think you are not grasping the mechanism here.

If you post to some web based forum that also interacts with usenet, then this is pretty much the experience you should expect.

But entirely predictable....

You are dealing with a distributed messaging system - it takes a while for messages to propagate from one system to another.

Past performance is no prediction of the future and all that...

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John Rumm

Sounds like a bit of a faff compared to just hitting n for the next unread message in the thread.

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John Rumm

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- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Right, so you went here:

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then right at the top of that page you did click on:

What is it, and how do I read it or post to it?

yes? And you did then read all the way down to "How do I join in?" and click on the link there to "newsgroup access tips, yes? Correct? You did all that, right, eh?

And then under "newsgroup access tips" you found a succinct summary of all we've been trying to drum into you for the last day and a half, yes? And am I still right, you read all that, yes? It even has instructions for how to configure a couple of usenet clients.

Then you ignored all that and went to google groups anyway.

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Tim Streater

I think you're swimming against the tide ... most people (there are exceptions) using google groups seem to be either having problems, or causing problems.

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Andy Burns

Quod erat demonstrandum....

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The Natural Philosopher

early afternoon)

Guess what - it didn't! I can still see the 60+ posts to this thread.

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alan

It might do now I've found it - I've changed server since I last looked which might explain why I didn't see it.

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bert

Oh dear ...

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

Not wishing to be unkind but again, oh dear.

Bang, bang, bang (that's my head on the desk ...)

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

En el artículo , John escribió:

I very much doubt he's capable of understanding anything.

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Mike Tomlinson

En el artículo , snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.co.uk escribió:

Yes, it's broken, as you have been told over and over and over again.

It's Google Groups that is broken, so go and whine at them and leave us alone.

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Mike Tomlinson

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