More wireless router issues

We have an annex to our home we let as a holiday apartment. Some clients ask if wireless internet is available. It is but only if they care sit in the garden as the existing signal does not reach the annex. I don't want to move the route as it covers our house perfectly, is there a way of adding wireless to the annex from our existing connection? Something I can switch on when required perhaps?

Mike

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MuddyMike
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As someone mentioned in the other thread, you could get a WiFi repeater, you would site this somewhere where it could "see" your existing WiFi access point, and where it could "be seen" from the annexe ... OR you could wire an ethernet cable from your router to the annexe, and install a separate WiFi access point there.

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Andy Burns

[My original reply seems to have fallen between the cracks]

As someone mentioned in the other thread, you could get a WiFi repeater, you would site this somewhere where it could "see" your existing WiFi access point, and where it could "be seen" from the annexe ... OR you could wire an ethernet cable from your router to the annexe, and install a separate WiFi access point there.

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Andy Burns

Home Plug.

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Baz

Original message, not quite on cue!

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Andy Burns

Just found this one on Ebay and thought it might solve two problems in one. Not only would I like to give WiFi access to the annex but I would also like to connect the Humax freesat box to the network so as to receive BBC I player. The location of the Humax would give wireless signal to the annex, but I am unsure if this would do it. Opinions?

Mike

Reply to
MuddyMike

You can get wireless extenders but you may want to consider a homeplug wireless extender that works over the mains cabling. That way you could disable the connection remotely either using the management software provided or by pulling the plug (at your end).

Reply to
Steve Firth

Various options are available. However giving them their own access point would make most sense. Either extend a link out there using a cable or a home plug point to point connection. The separate AP would mean you could restrict their access to just the internet, and not also your lan.

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John Rumm

In article , MuddyMike writes

Which one is that :-?

Wifi really isn't that much cop for streaming so you would be better off with a wired connection to the Humax. A wired connection out to the annexe to plug a wireless access point into would be the ideal but as it's for punters that is less important. Remember that you can make the wireless as secure as you like with a simple but secure shared password and as they're transient visitors they're unlikely to re-visit to hijack it or to share it with others, change it once a month if worried.

IME edimax gear is a reasonable cost/perf compromise at the mo.

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fred

That's interesting. I'd like some mobile access but paying =A310/1GB that expires in 30 days is about 999MB more than I need (last month, a heavy one for data was, 0.8MB...) OK use would go up but I doubt it would go up *that* much.

Being in the middle of nowhere the amount of data Fon users would use would be minimal. Is the percentage split fixed or dynamic up to say

10% of the connection?
Reply to
Dave Liquorice

BT don't say, just that they get a percentage of your capacity when they're using it. A`"small portion" according to the FAQ on the website, up to 512Kbps.

Reply to
John Williamson

If you were surrounded by greedy users, you could always put a tinfoil hat on the router! (ok that would hide all three SSIDs, just wire your own A/P to the router)

Reply to
Andy Burns

Someone is missing the point somewhere.

You always have WiFi access to your own router.

Fon access is also WiFi. If you don't want other people to use any of your bandwidth then just don't sign up for Fon. You don't then get access to other people's Fon either.

MBQ

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Man at B&Q

*Total* bandwidth available to Fon users is capped by the router. It doesn't matter how many there are, they share the same percentage of your bandwidth. I use BT Fon regularly in hotels, and when a few other Fon users are on line, the 3G becomes a lot quicker than Fon.
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John Williamson

No, merely subverting the point :-)

Yes I know

I was merely pointing out that if you want access to other people's WiFi without giving them access to yours, you could butcher the aerial (which would mean *you* couldn't access via the Fon device either) but they'd hardly be in a position to tell!

Reply to
Andy Burns

The BT equivalent of FON uses a separate ATM channel for the public WiFi IIRC (or it did when I suggested it a few years ago). It allows for the logging by BT and for user verification so the access point need not do.

FON is a bit of a bodge IMO, but it doesn't require any support from your ISP.

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dennis

Actually, if you don't want people using your bandwidth, you may have to opt out of FON. From BT's website:

"From the middle of March '09 new BT Total Broadband and BT Infinity customers won't need to do anything as they will be automatically opted in to the BT FON community."

AFAIK, this means your router is opted in - you still need to sign up for a pass if you want to use FON hotspots elsewhere.

I'm not sure what this means for pre March '09 customers who, say, have upgraded their connection or some account option since then.

Reply to
Jake

As`far

commission,

Had a dig, you can get Fon router/AP for =A345.75 delivered, put that online and share your connection and you get free access to other Fon hotspots.

It gets confusing in relation to BT. As I read it you get free access via private BT Home Hub based hotspots (that haven't switched the Fon function off, it's on by default). But you have to pay if you want to use BT Openzone Premium hotspots, I haven't quite worked out what a "BT Openzone Premium" hotspot is, I suspect it's what is installed in public places like stations, sports venues etc. Just where I'd like to use a bit of WiFi...

Can anyone clarify what "BT Openzone" spots one can access for free if you have a shared Fon router online?

Pity the 50% revenue share of pass purchases is not available in the UK. Any rumours of that appearing it's avialable across europe...

Reply to
Dave Liquorice

Or get the 2.0n (=A390) rather than the =A350 simpl Fon box, on the 2.0n=

box you can adjust the shared bandwidth down to 64kbps... I haven't found what the Simpl box uses for the shared side.

BTW these boxes connect via ethernet to your existing, provided by something else, internet connection. So plugging your own AP into a Fon box would be a bit pointless you may as well plug that straight into your own LAN switch.

Reply to
Dave Liquorice

I found this information difficult to track down. I have an android phone that's actually on an O2 iPhone contract which means it should come with free WiFi, I've never had much joy with it, it's not clear if this is because the network can tell I've not really got an iPhone (I tried User Agent spoofing, but it could still use MAC address) now I just don't bother with public WiFi.

Reply to
Andy Burns

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