Some relatives & I went on holiday in a self-catering townhouse in
Yorkshire earlier this summer. I think the house was about 10 years
All the internal doors except the ones for the bathrooms had
self-closing gadgets built in (installed in the frame between the
hinges, pulling a chain attached to the hinge side of the door). The
visitors' book had several previous comments requesting doorstops
because the self-closing doors were a nuisance, followed by a comment
from the owners to the effect that they weren't allowed to provide
doorstops because of fire regulations.
That will be why then... ten years ago self closers on all the doors
from habitable rooms onto the main escape route was the norm. The doors
however on the lower two storeys did not need to be fire doors.
These days IIUC, self closers are not required, but all the doors from
habitable rooms that open onto the primary escape route need to be 30
min fire doors.
(Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about the owners --- just
OK, so they could *now* replace the doors with 30 min fire doors
*without* self-closers if they wanted to?
Do these requirements apply to houses intended for single-family
owner-occupation, or just rental?
True. We have a self-catering let on three floors that was recently
converted (5 years ago) and that was the building reg requirement.
Same for our own house. In the let the ground floor door has an
electro-magnetic catch to hold it open that is released by the smoke
detectors if they go off. Imagine what would happen if there was a
fire with fatalities and the owners had been discovered to have
provided door stops. The fire doors were the biggest topic of
discussion when we were inspected to get our final certificate.
That is correct - and the whole point of a firedoor is to hold-back the
spread of a fire for upto an hour.
The legislation on that has been in for quite some time, and I can recall
having a contract around the late 90s to fit around 150 internal fire doors
and perko springs (excluding the bathrooms and separate toilets) to several
blocks of three storey flats (complete with enhanced doorstops and Georgian
How? You'd still have to turn the handle, open the kitchen door, grab
the oven dish with both hands, rush through the door before it closes
on you, knock on the dining room door with your head, wait until
someone gets up & opens it, then serve the food.
On Tuesday, September 4, 2012 8:56:59 PM UTC+1, tim..... wrote:
Depends on the house; because of the position of the chimney breast my kitchen
door opens into what is effectively a narrow passage - there isn't room for
somebody to hold the door open without obstructing the passage.
not sure if this is relevant but a LOT of companies have spring loaded
fire doors that stay open because a magnet sticks to a bit of material
that loses its magnetism at high temps. So they can be left permanently
open unless they get hit: Then they close.
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