Lighting isolation connectors - how much enclosure required?

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I have some high-bay lamps to install in the workshop, where they'll be high up, awkward to access and connected via flex. A sensible connector for them seems to be these "Click Flow" connectors, rather than the usual loop-in junction box.

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also have the claimed advantage of easy isolation for insulation testing.

My question is, how much enclosure should I provide for these things? If any?! I presume they're really intended for use in suspended ceilings and just left dangling free there, I'm planning to hide them somewhere about 8' above ground, in the lower parts of the roof. Oddly they don't have any facility for permanently attaching them, just dangling.

They're made by Scolmore, but I can't find them mentioned on their site

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Owain · Accepted Answer

They don't look like the sort of thing I'd like to have just dangling; not sure if there's any cable clamp on the male side.

A bit more expensive, but if you don't have too many lights wouldn't make much difference in overall cist, would be pluggable ceiling roses eg

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in 3 and 4 terminal versions if you have ELUs on the circuit, and mount to a standard BESA conduit box.

Electrac sockets/plugs would be an alternative.

Owain

Andrew Gabriel · Answer

I would use Klik connectors, which come in several formats, including a ceiling rose style...

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need to mount on a BESA box (circular conduit box). The picture shows a stand-alone BESA ring, but IME they don't come with that (although I've never bought them from TLC).

Bob Eager · Answer

Yes, I used these at home and they are very good. You normally seem to get the three parts pictuered - the connector (into which the flex is fitted), a clip-on cover with a flex hole in it, and the actual base. The BESA box isn't pictured, but is standard.

One point - they don't have loop-in terminals so you'll need to wire slightly differently, or use junction boxes.

Bob Eager · Answer

There is.

Tim S · Answer

Bob Eager coughed up some electrons that declared:

Confirmed -I have some.

The thing that lets them down is the lack of fixing point in the female side. It would be nice to be able to crew it down. Having said that, a cbale clip close by keeps it steady.

ARWadsworth · Answer

They do have loop in terminals. You can also buy them with 4 pin plugs for use with emergency lightingAdam

Andrew Gabriel · Answer

The socket is propped up on what looks like a stand-aloneBESA box in the picture.Real Klik ones do.(It becomes the 4th terminal in the red 4 terminal versionsfor emergency lighting.)

Bob Eager · Answer

Mine didn't, but this was a whle ago and I probably ordered the wrong ones! It didn't matter in this particular case, anyway.

Bob Eager · Answer

Ooops - missed that!These *are* real Klik ones - at least, they have it on them and were bought from RS or CPC...but it was a while ago. If they'd had a fourth terminal I'd have used it, so perhaps that has changed. I must have bought them ten years ago.

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