Kitchen lights

In message , GB writes

I've used recessed Enlite LED fittings from CPC. Said to be dimmable but we'll see. Range of Wattages.

LED panels fitted flush to the ceiling 4 x 12 watt but mine are not dimmable but light output is bright, this for 24 foot long kitchen.

replying to GB, Iggy wrote: For those requirements, I'd think your best bet would be an up-light arrangement (

Which means a large area of lights - like your tubes - or it bounced off a white ceiling, etc.

Any domestic lighting can be dimmed. Even fluorescents. Suitable LEDS with suitable dimmers too.

That one is going to be more difficult. Unless you actually just mean to change the colour.

A problem in that lights which look good may not give the sort of working light you need.

Really they're not difficult to achieve. Over counter lighting plus uplight ing onto the ceiling. You can use dimmers or switchbank, the latter are bet ter. A mix of cool white or daylight plus warm white on a switchbank can gi ve you almost any mix of colour and brightness you like.

NT

What is actually wrong with the lights? If you can repair them them they should not give shadows and the right colour temp tubes can be appealing. However one could also fit some other more moody lights elsewhere when you want the more intimate look. Brian

You probaly would be best off having "Working Lights" and "Dining Lighting" on different switches instead of trying to get one luminare type to do everthing.

GB wrote in news:p0eku9$cdq$ snipped-for-privacy@news.albasani.net:

We have LED Downlights in the ceiling and under cabinet lights. At the end where the table is, we have a 3 lamp hanging fitting. At meal time we turn off the main downlights and leave the cabinet and the hanging light on.

Well I do mean to change the colour - daylight for food prep, changed to warm white when we eat.

I have more or less decided that what we want are some LED panel lights that can be screwed to the ceiling. I'll check the output but 4 600x300 panels should do it, or possibly 600x600s. Some of those can be dimmed, apparently. But I can't seem to find any that also let you change the colour temperature/colour. If that's not possible, we'll compromise and probably just go for some warm white lights. Am I currently looking for something that doesn't exist?

I think the panels are an improvement on the fluorescents we currently have. :)

Anything *can* be done - depending on how much new wiring and installation you're willing and able to do. And how much you're willing to spend.

My over counter lighting where there are wall cupboards is concealed fluorescents (tubes behind a plinth. On a dimmer. Other worktop lighting is halogen downlighters - enough to give an even light. Also on dimmers.

Beauty of halogen is the way they go 'red' when dimmed. Exactly as needed for relaxed lighting. The reason I'm staying with them. I'm one of those rare people who want lighting to do what I want, before just saving money on running costs. But my kitchen has also a dining area, so perhaps more dual purpose than many.

That's interesting, but I definitely want the energy efficiency of LEDs. I don't want to run new wiring, as that's too disruptive. I just want to get the best substitute for the old fluorescent fittings.

Do you have wall cupboards with room for lights on the top? They can provide an easy way to provide diffuse "dining" light separate from the work ceiling "work" lights. And pending a rewire it may be practicable to power them from a plug into an existing socket with flex run behind the cupboards without too much offence to the sensibilities - or at least, to the sensibilities of those living with 4" ('?) fluorescent light fittings :)

We have under-cupboard lights already. These are fluorescent, and I'm keeping those unchanged. As you say, they do provide a very pleasant light for dining. They are controlled by 5 switches (one on each light) and people tend to leave them on too much.

that is not an uplight

it doesn't

yes, but the fitting shown is generally used in or near the middle of the room, not the best option for a kitchen.

plurals don't have apostrophes

will create lots of shadows

NT

replying to tabbypurr, Iggy wrote: Yes, it's an up-light, the exposed or naked bulbs are up and where the most light is released.

Yes, reflection creates a very much Northern Type Lighting, exactly why it's used by photographers.

Yes, and is up to the user to decide if they want more than one fixture, he had

Yes, acronyms are legally pluralized by either an apostrophe or a hyphen (just ugly and can be mistaken for a different model), a lowercase "s" is only legal when the acronym is capitalized though many spell checkers fail them (CFLs, CFL-s or CFL's).

almost none of that correct as ever. I see no point replying further.

Don't know about 600mm versions, but some panels have both warm and cool LEDs and alternate between them each time you turn them on.

these aren't cheap, other may be

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He can use an many apostrophes as he likes as far as I'm concerned, just make him stop using HomeOwnersHub!