Immersion heater - spot the problem

Jul 16, 2004 26 Replies

Just because it is powered by electricity doesn't mean that water can't pass through it without hitting a live part. In fact there are quite a number of vacuum cleaners specifically designed to suck up liquids (though they are also designed not to throw them out the back!).

One possible way to design a "standard" vacuum cleaner is to use the "exhaust" air to cool the motor - this could well lead to fireworks when used to suck up water. However, there are at least two reasons to not design it in this way:

1) Just because you don't market it as a "wet and dry" machine doesn't mean that users won't try to clean up liquids or mixed wet/dry stuff - if you can find a cost efficient way to not electricute your dumber customers you should probably do it. 2) Even though the air is filtered before being expelled it will still be relatively dusty - if this passes through the motor it is likely to seriously reduce its lifespan.

its a cylinder hoover where all flow goes through the inside of the motor. 2 core lead, no RCD anywhere, and just not enough current to pop the fuse. Remarkably it emptied the whole damn tank - and it was no small tank.

Regards, NT

Actually hoovers are usually designed so the full airflow goes through the middle of the motor. Max airflow minimises size weight and cost of the motor, and cost is all in todays marketplace. Sure, there are downsides as well as upsides.

The hoover in question was such a beast. The water went through the motor, all over all the rotor stator and commutator connections.

Regards, NT

When I do this, i typically (after removing hose from water) turn the electricity off at the plug, then empty hoover, and leave to run for a couple of minutes to get it nice and dry before turning off. Less chance of various stuff rust/corroding.

Ah. With a 2 core lead, no earth and plastic/rubber wheels, you're never going to get enough earth leakage to blow the RCD even if it existed.

Clean water is surprisingly non-conductive. I'm not surprised it didn't blow the MCB or fuse.

Christian.

You do this regularly?? You seem like a good reliable chap, but why do I doubt you for once :) It does mean the water intake and output are connected straight to the mains.

Regards, NT

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