How long does it take a locksmith to open a van with keys locked inside?

That's when a Seebackroscope could come in handy.

"Wait a mo, Mr AA Man, I've got something in my eye."

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As time progresses, vehicles have stupider and stupider electronic systems, like locking the door ITSELF after a certain time if you leave the vehicle unattended. Of course the vehicle doesn't know the keys are in the vehicle and not your pocket. Even if it's supposed to sense them somehow, like mobile phones, signals aren't always 100%.

You must be the 1% of the population with a perfectly working memory and never gets distracted. Have you never unlocked a door and been carrying something large/heavy and had to put the keys down somewhere, then forget them? Have you never been leaving he house and thought "oops I forgot to...." and gone back in, interrupting your locking procedure?

I pretty soon stopped using the Yale lock on my house and hid spare keys in the garden aswell.

I once had the alarm break on a Ford Mondeo (M reg). It wouldn't stop sounding, even though I had the key in my possession and could get into the car. I called the AA. He reached under the dashboard below the steering wheel and snipped the RED (!) wire. Alarm shut up, car worked normally.

Talking of batteries, why can't they make a bonnet with a normal lock like the boot? The cable release always ends up breaking.

It does actually.

In the same way it knows its in the car when you hit the engine start button.

Perfectly possible to have it fail safe.

That is the whole point of getting into that sort of habit, it keeps working in that situation.

No, never, because I don't have to put the keys down somewhere in that situation. I can leave them in the lock until I put the large/heavy thing down and then take them out of the lock and do what I normally do with them.

Yes, but the locking procedure works fine in that situation too.

With mine I have to use the key to lock the door as I go out. It isnt possible to slam the door and have it lock without using the key, so not possible to lock the keys in the house.

The one time I ever lost the keys was when I had just moved into the house I had just built, well before it was even close to being finished. I had rigged up a temporary bed by putting an old door on a few concrete blocks in the second bathroom which had had no work done on it at all. That had a number of big earthenware pipes coming up thru the concrete slab for stuff like the floor drain, the shower drain, the sink etc which were completely open at the top.

I used to take a nap on that most days and managed to have the keys fall out of my pocket, into one of those drains without me noticing. After a lot of head scratching I decided that that must have been what had happened to the keys and sure enough, when I looked in the drain, there they were.

I have also never run out of petrol in any car I have ever driven except on the one occasion when I has picked up a couple of Alsatian puppies from the state capital which is more than one fill of petrol away from where I live. I brought them home in the VW Beetle with the front seat removed with the two puppies who where only

Presumably the lock ends up filled with dead insects and dirt etc. Much easier to avoid that at the back.

I've only ever had the one break, on a Golf.

The Beetle never did and neither did any of the other cars.

jack off rod.

I can slam lock the door but I'm pretty safe as I can use my phone to unlock the door. Or another family member can.