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David 6 years ago

I have a mains feed to the shed protected by a 40A RCBO. So full chat at 220 * 40 = 8.8 kW. Or pushing it, 250 * 40 = 10 kW.

I also have mains water and main drainage.

Looking at electric showers, I guess I could run something like

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if I didn't have anything else major running apart from a light or two.

I was considering a hot water tank and an immersion heater for more total heat over a slower period but that seems to run to over £200 for a basic set up.

For hand washing there are what look like shower units without the shower which makes me wonder if there is a way to divert the shower to the hand basin and use the same unit.

However this seems to get good ratings

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and also looks to be an easy install. At the price it seems to be easier than messing about with a shower.

Any other strategies?

Basic requirements for the shed will be toilet, shower and hand basin (or possibly larger sink for washing stuff).

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Dave R

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David 6 years ago

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The Redring water heater above says there must be at least 1.7m of 15mm cold feed between the heater and the next cold draw off to allow for expansion. Less in 22 mm.

Otherwise an expansion vessel and non-return valve must be fitted.

An expansion vessel and non-return valve seems to cost more than the heater; £67.99 for the heater and £79.95 for the expansion vessel.

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I'm now wondering why you wouldn't just run an extra bit of 22mm cold pipe.

Also wondering if that part is over kill.

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Dave R

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Harry Bloomfield, Esq. 6 years ago

David explained :

If all you want is hand washing, the usual fix is an instant over sink

3kw water heater.

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Thomas Prufer 6 years ago

Look at "tankless lpg water heater" or "tankless propane water heater"...

Run off a bottle: gas in, fumes out, cold water in, hot water out. Power is off two D cells. Certification is likely not compliant...

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spuorgelgoog 6 years ago

Unless you get a second hand one from someone upgrading to unvented hot water. Of course in a shed frost-proofing a header tank might be more difficult.

Electric showers really aren't supposed to have any valve or possible restriction on the output, and some can be very fussy about the spray if not supplied by the manufacturer.

However multipoint electric instantaneous heaters are available.

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newshound 6 years ago

That sounds like the answer to me. Cheapest from a quick search is the Triton T30i 3kW from Amazon for £40 although there are under sink ones for £50.

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Harry Bloomfield, Esq. 6 years ago

newshound pretended :

I think I have a brand new one in a box in my garage you could have for a tenner, if you can collect extreme east of west Yorks?

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David 6 years ago

Where is that in relation to Leeds?

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Dave R

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David 6 years ago

AFAIK Propane costs about the same as electricity; that is, a lot more than natural gas from the mains.

As I have mains electricity I'm not sure of the benefit of using bottled gas.

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Thomas Prufer 6 years ago

24 kW or 28 kW, and corresponding water output, for around 100 quid.

It would be overkill if it's just warm water for hand washing, or a low-volume shower.

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tabbypurr 6 years ago

If it were just handwashing I'd consider a diy solar setup on the roof.

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Harry Bloomfield, Esq. 6 years ago

David formulated on Wednesday :

About 10 miles east.

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David 6 years ago

Thanks. Remind me to get back to you the next time I visit my son. :-)

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