here we go.

Jun 22, 2016 16 Replies

Juncker finally admits that the EU isn't going to negotiate with britain if we stay inside, or if we leave.



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Toys pram throw out


Seems to me that we might as well go. Our chances of getting anything from the inside are zero.



Colin, Adrian and Dave will like this:-

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This could be a win/win situation. In a months time, Nicola calls the Scottish independence referendum, wins and Scotland secedes and joins the EU. They then move to the Euro and by the end of the year get caught for their share of the Eurozone debts and have to take in and pay for 50K EU refugees! The rest of the UK can sue the Scottish government for the balance of the National debt which they will owe and seize all Scottish assets coming into the UK as the US does when something upsets their bankers. We can also take a lesson from Donald Trump and charge Scotland for the cost of putting up a border fence between England and Scotland. Implausible just wait!!! Dave will need a new passport! He could of course become a UK citizen domiciled in England. It would only take 5 years.

Just painting a possible scenario for entertainment.

We can also take a lesson from Donald Trump and charge

Can I paint another entertainment picture of what will be the UK immigration border check between northern Ireland and the Republic after we leave? A chicken wire fence?

Sounds about right.

But are the SNP stupid enough to actually want independence? Surely they know that scotland is the net recipient of a lot of UK money, and that a declining oil industry and vapourware renewables will not keep Rab C. Nesbitt in beer, chips and on the sosh?

I think they are just like te Labour party, inventing a convenient enemy (england) to get the power on the back of National Socialism, but never ever wanting to actually deliver independence because once they do, they will be toast?

The Labour party needs a constant supply of 'issues', to justify its existence. If those 'issues' ever vanished, so too would the Labour party.

That's why in 50 years, they have never ever solved any.

Oh no, I think we can do better than that.

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The Irish will follow us, we're their biggest market.

Sweden and France looking wobbly too.

Don't make me larf. In the EU they would lose all fishing rights, and as far as windfarms go, a separate England would be under no obligation to buy windpower at 12p, when it can buy french nuke power at 4p

Of course the SNP would blame England...

But given that he is just another lying politician, no one can ever believe anything he says.

There are no toys and no pram. He's just doing what anyone with a clue would do in that situation, make it look like it makes more sense to stay than leave, because that is what he wants to see with the referendum.

That remains to be seen if the eurozone implodes completely and the EU needs Britain to help with the bailing out because Germany and France wont be able to afford to do that alone. They could well provide some quid pro quo to get Britain to assist.

They get too much from the EU to do that.

They would be free to continue to sell anything they like to Britain with Britain outside the EU.

I don?t believe that with France.

Who is he speaking for though. Those sort of people often change their tunes depending on their audience. Brian

And this fits in with the UKs agreement that we don't bail out the euro in what way rod/TNP?

That would be the reason to try some quid pro quo to see if that could get Britain to change its mind on the bailing out, stupid.

well at least the guard posts are already in place an we wont have to build any new ones

tim

Danes are first in the queue (apparently)

tim

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