I have, sadly, inherited a 16C thatched house in Devon. Listed building
in conservation area.
The place is generally in good order but the brick chimney stack is poor
and the thatch needs a new ridge. The stack consists of two flues which
emerge at the ridge. Both flues are used.
My plan would be to have the stack rebuilt at the same time as thatching
works are carried out. Flue liners and appropriate terminations would
also be fitted. Probably next Spring.
Last night I met with a local builder and a local thatcher, have known
both for years. They are of good repute.
They agree that the plan is sound. Builder said that the new stack would
have to be 1.8m above the ridge. At present it is less than 1m. If this
advice is correct the new stack would not be in keeping with (1) the
building and (2) the locality.
Does anyone know if this requirement would apply to a listed building in
a conservation area?
I've done a bit of googling this afternoon but am struggling to find
what the exact requirements may be.
Perhaps I should speak with a local BCO and English Heritage.
I'm struggling. All help would be appreciated.
You need to talk to your local planners or the Conservation Officer who
have the responsibility for approving listed building consents. The good
news is that there is no fee for making an application for listed
building consent. Remember that making unauthorised alterations to a
listed building is a criminal offence. Make friends with your CO as he
can make things hell if you get on the wrong side of him or her. Whilst
English Heritage will be consulted they are not usually interested
unless the building is Grade 1 listed whereas yours will probably be
On Friday 22 November 2013 18:27 Peter Crosland wrote in uk.d-i-y:
And in addition (and more importantly in terms of fire prevention) - I think
this type of work *may* be notifiable to buiding control.
This is one case where a hundred quid or so (fee) to the building control
dept will likely be very worthwhile in terms of on the spot expert advice
from the building inspector who should have familiarity with thatched roofs.
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If the chimney works well, why bother increasing the height?
May well need repair/upgrade
Liners can only improve it.
I seem to remember there are issues regarding fire resisting thatch. Some
form of chemical treatment?
Some form of spark arrestor for chimney?
I doubt there is actually a requirement as such that you have to rebuild
it that high (even if it might be so ona new build say), but it might be
advisable in the builders eyes. It has survived all these years for
starters :-) however, might be worth checking with BCO if it something
they are bothered about
First stop should be your LA conservation Officer, listed buildings
Dept, whatever they are called.
To change the stack you would need to get Listed Buildings Consent
anyway, and whilst like for like repairs are allowed - for something
like the thatch ridge I'd want to ok that with them as well. They will
probably want to agree the material, maybe the style etc. (it's free to
apply) but give them a ring/email first.
They will probably pop round and discuss it on site first. I'd imagine
they have plenty of experience of dealing with thatch buildings in
somewhere like Dorset
Despite the tales you hear , my dealings with our local ones have been
Current insurer is NFU. They are aware of both the thatch and the open
fires. They have made stipulations regarding freqency of the chimneys being
swept and submissions of certificates of such. Other than that, they don't
have any problems with the arrangement.
Rural area with many thatched buildings, I'm unaware of any locally that
don't have some form of solid fuel heating. No mains gas and timber is
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