I had a quote from a company I have used for most of my house for fitting
new facias soffits and gutters ( capped over existing) for £4000.I was
a bit shocked to be honest. Am I unreasonable to think this is rather expe
nsive? I have a two bedroom bungalow (four sides) 26ft on one side and 33ft
I am now thinking of getting OH to do it. But I have run into problems.
a) Of the many sorts of plastic on the market,which thickness is best.
I am also having difficulty sourcing somewhere locally to sell me just the
b)Can someone explain simply how you fit soffits and facias over the existi
(OH can already do guttering no problems there).
c) Would I just be better off painting and leaving it a few more years?
Its cast iron guttering .The wood of the facias etc. is good and has been w
ell painted( until I arrived anyway).
Any reasonable answers. Thanks.
Its fairly pricey... certainly one of those jobs that will be much
cheaper if you can DIY.
For the facia board, you normally use a relatively thin board when over
boarding. Guttering tends to be a one thickness fits all thing.
There are loads of suppliers of uPVC stuff about, but there are plenty
online, and places like Wickes will have what you need as well.
The facia is L shaped - it has a lip at the bottom. So you take off the
existing gutter. Trim to the right depth, and then nail it onto the face
of the existing facia so that the lip wraps round the bottom of the wood
hiding it. You leave a small gap between the bottom of the existing
facia and the lip.
You then get vee board of similar material for the soffit. That's a wide
plastic T & G board that is made to look like smaller individual board
(each lenth is profiled into three "planks" normally. That you cut into
appropriate lengths, and support one end under the lip on the facia, and
the other is held by a channel or trim you fix to the wall or existing
Depends on what is actually wrong with the existing.
I would be tempted to keep it if its all in good working order and all
it lacks is paint.
Thanks for the reply. Since yesterday I have had a good look at the existin
g guttering , soffits and fascia (OH was out cutting down a tree that had g
rown over 40 feet -a big job, so I had ladders and step ladders and could t
ake a look easily)
They are all in good order. However, I really knew this and was only consi
dering plastic because everyone tells me how maintenance free they are.
I am seriously considering painting it - at least for this year now. The re
ason it looks tatty is because the brown paint I put over it around 15 year
s ago is coming away and showing the green paint that was previously there
in a few places. A good clean would sort most of it. Even the cast iron gu
ttering is in good shape - a couple of brackets need replacing. ( I know it
s heavy to take down).
I am a bit disappointed in the quote to be honest.I had expected around
£1600- £2000 max
I am inclined to not fix what isn't broke now.
My OH knows a painter - an old friend since school days (he is good, retire
d now but been in the trade over 40 years) who has taken a look at it last
night and offered to paint it for £600. He says its in good conditio
n and wont take above three days.
I have asked him to paint (and wallpaper) my kitchen right now......so I mi
ght tag this on the end.
On Wednesday, 24 August 2016 07:58:56 UTC+1, sweetheart wrote:
red now but been in the trade over 40 years) who has taken a look at it la
st night and offered to paint it for £600. He says its in good condit
ion and wont take above three days.
I've never paid anyone £200 a day to paint!
On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 10:39:16 AM UTC+1, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
, retired now but been in the trade over 40 years) who has taken a look at
it last night and offered to paint it for £600. He says its in good
condition and wont take above three days.
an hour. Steep for painting.
So, you reckon it can be done in a day?When I did it 15 years ago, it took
me nearly three weeks. OK, thats a longer time I agree. However, , it has
to be cleaned and sanded down and the flaking paint rubbed back. Thats one
day in itself. The house has four sides. Its not just a front and a back an
d a couple of evaes.
Then it has to be under coated. Maybe two lots, I dont know what the painte
r will do. I gave it one coat when I did it, but given the time and damage
in some places (on layer of gloss flaking off the other) it might take more
Then he will have to paint the top coat.
Even if he gave it only one coat of under coat and one of top coat, it isn'
t going to be done in a day. Paint has to dry.
Its soffits, fascia and guttering he will be doing, not just a simple barge
board across the front.
I thought £600 was reasonable so that I am not made to do it myself. I
am older now and do not feel up to climbing on a chair and painting, then
getting down and moving along and doing it again...... at least the man wil
l have step ladders to do it. I cant do that. I do not like ladders.
I have looked at the price of paint ( and yes, I know he will get a trade d
iscount) but its still around two large tins at £222.99 a tin ( for gl
oss) and another £20 or so for under coat ( per tin ) .Again it is lik
ely to be two tins. I used more than that if I recall.
I reckon £100 in materials.
I have checked across the internet for price estimates for painting fascias
and guttering. The going rate seems to be around £700/800 .
Having said that.Your last calculation of £23.75 and hour ,I wouldnt h
ave thought was out of a ball park for a skilled apprenticed workman who I
can trust in this day and age. Then there is his travel expenses and of c
ourse that money is before tax.
Anyway, it beasts the hell out of £4K for covering it in plastic.
Pay peanuts.... get a p ole? Is that what you think I should do? No thank
IME plastic is not low maintenance if it is white. Also,
there are now maintenance problems with moss clearance from gutters in
most houses. A bungalow is advantageous as a pressure washer wand can be
used very easily from ground level in many cases.
Straight forward semi, just front and back to do, next door had been
done. We were quoted £950 and £1200 to do ours - a few years ago now.
Because I could do it and make a better job of it, I did it myself.
I think my materials cost was around £200, but front fall pipe was
already done. The Plumbcentre stock all you will need. Make sure you
use stainless for fixings.
Have you checked that the wood *behind and above* the gutter is in good
I ask because cast iron guttering can be a pain to take down so as to
paint the whole fascia. While the wood behind/above doesn't get exposed
to much if any sunlight and weather, it can end up rotten while the
regularly painted wood below is in good nick :(
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid
£4000 is ridiculous for a bungalow of your size, something nearer a qu
arter that cost I can understand. Be careful of just covering rotten wood,
we had that done round a square bay window at the last house only because t
he zinc roof of it would have needed replacing to do otherwise. The job loo
ked OK for a while but movement of the underlying fascias caused some long
At our present house covering was done with the same result but the most si
gnificant problem was the reduction of the tile overhang which by the time
the gutters were fitted resulted in a gap behind the gutters allowing water
to drip down the fascias. I have had to put in felt support trays to ensur
e water ended up in the gutters.
If replacing, the advised solution, then 16mm fascias are the answer. If co
vering 9mm should be the maximum.
On Tuesday, 23 August 2016 06:50:48 UTC+1, sweetheart wrote:
g new facias soffits and gutters ( capped over existing) for £4000.I w
as a bit shocked to be honest. Am I unreasonable to think this is rather ex
pensive? I have a two bedroom bungalow (four sides) 26ft on one side and 33
e plastic bits.
well painted( until I arrived anyway).
4k sounds silly. Do it yerself. Just be aware cast iron gutter is heavy stu
ff. Reuse it, obviously.
Since scaffolding will not be necessary this is a rip off.
Neighbour paid £2500 for a two-bed semi (house) and this
included scaffolding and replacing the soft/rotten timber that comprises
the outer rail of the gable end ladder (the 4 x 2 timber
that the barge boards nail onto).
Normal practise is to remove existing fascia boards and replace with
12 mm OSB cut into strips with the same width as the stuff being
removed. Nail this onto the ends of the rafters so that it supports
the last row of tiles correctly. Push the tile back and use some
12 inc wide DPC to *underlap* the sarking felt which will have frayed
and sagged, and *over*lap the OSB by about 2 inches. Nail the hockey
stick UPVC moulding over the top using the correct pins. leave a gap
between the OSB and the horizontal bit at the bottom so that the
soffit board can slot into it. Some means of support will be needed
for thr soffit board if you live in a windy area.
I had my two sides of a terraced property done for under 2000, perhaps the
bloke just does not want the job so priced it high.
Which reminds me, ever since we have been here in the house there has been
no felt in the loft where the tiles are. a bloke told me the roof needed
rebuilding but to me it seems pretty robust. the only issue with having air
blowing in the loft seems to be when we get the wrong kind of snow, ie the
powdery stuff, which ends up on top of the lagging and melts there. so far
no harm seems to have been done though.
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