Getting a duplicate SIM card

Hi all,

As part of my "de-Googlifying my life" strategy, I would lke to have an identical SIM card made to the one I normally use in my Samsung smart phone. I will then stick the duplicate into a 'dumb phone' (some old Nokia for example that does nothing more than sms and calls; no fancy stuff; and definitely no Android!). Is this do-able and (preferably DIY-able?) Thanks.

Reply to
Paul S. Barford
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If you mean a sim with the same phone number, I doubt that can be done legally. It?s just what every identity thief and con merchant would love to be able to do!

Armed with a cloned sim and your bank details after an exchange of SMSs to confirm identity, your bank account could be emptied, your house sold etc?

Just get an iPhone if you?re that worried.

Tim

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Tim+

Don't joke about "your house sold". Someone failed badly on their due-diligence checks in this case

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It looks to have been a very elaborate scam, because solicitors normally check driving licences and passports for photo matching the customer. When we sold our house via an internet conveyancer, we had to use the webcam in our laptop to establish a call to the solicitor so they could see that our faces matched the passport and licence photos. Those scams always ultimately need to transfer the money to the scammer in an untraceable form, and you'd think that each link in the chain from solicitor to bank account to bank account would be tested, with someone somewhere finding that the money was about to go to an untraceable "Swiss bank account" and at that point they would do extra checks.

Reply to
NY

You can't have the same number on two SIMs but if you clarify exactly what you are trying to achieve you might get some more ideas on the uk.telecom.mobile group

Reply to
Murmansk

It was an elaborate scam.

The house was empty (for some time) and the thieves broke in, used all the info they could find to make false identity ID of the owner and sell the house. They had use of the letterbox and so got a replacement driving licence.

It was a vicar that lost his house.

Reply to
ARW

I thought the police's reaction was deplorable (no crime committed so we can't do f*ck all). OF COURSE a crime was committed! Someone falsely obtained identity documents and sold something they didn't own! Wankers.

Reply to
Cursitor Doom

Friend of mine had the same number on a mobile and a carphone, I think he was supposed to not have them both turned on at the same time ...

Reply to
Andy Burns

The only way to have two SIM cards with the same number is with the cooperation of your network, and in practice that means having a contract with one of the big networks that offer that on their plans - for example an option to add a smartwatch SIM to your contract. That's probably not an option for most people.

What you can do is put your regular SIM in the dumbphone and get another SIM to use in your smartphone. It won't have the same number but it will allow the phone to access mobile data, and you can make calls from the different number. The other thing you can do is set diverts from one number to another - but you'll pay for the call costs of those.

So it depends what you want to do.

Theo

Reply to
Theo

Unfortunately that's not of any use in this instance. Mainly, if I did do that I'd lose all the vast package of data I have on contract with my initial SIM because the dumb phone won't be capable of displaying it.

Reply to
Paul S. Barford

He may have a similar problem to what I used to have. I worked in a place where any phone with a camera was not permitted. So I had a (semi) smart phone and a dumb one. It was a pain transferring the SIM back and forth.

Reply to
Steve Walker

Exactly. And it's even worse the newer the phone is. :(

Reply to
Paul S. Barford

It was easy in the analogue days. I had three brick phones on the same number. Couldn't use two at once though!

Bill

Reply to
williamwright

Why not? You have two ears..... so one phone to each ear?

Reply to
SH

Amazing his boss didn't notice, and alert him ?

Reply to
Mark Carver

Well, when I needed to transfer my sim from an old phone to a new I phone so I kept the same number it was simple to do via the people I was with, Vodafone in my case. The newer phones take a much smaller SIM. Most modern ones come fitted into an adaptor so you can just push out the tiny one or use it fitted in the larger carrier. I still find fitting them very fiddly though. Roll on Electronic sims, as many phones now allow, which would solve the whole issue. Brian

Reply to
Brian Gaff (Sofa

Getting less common now, bluetooth and wifi and mobile capability are often all banned.

That also means on sites where cameras are permitted after jumping through multiple hoops, you can only use older "dumb" cameras without any comms.

I also have to keep black PVC tape stuck over my camera flash, to make sure I don't accidentally "flash" any PROMs in instrumentation cabinets!

Reply to
newshound

AFAIK their offices are still closed to visitors in person (why?) which makes it difficult to use an ID1 form, depending on what other forms of ID you do or don't have.

Reply to
Andy Burns

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