Following on from the win xp bug that allowed remote execution..

[dennis]

Who wants to use console stuff on a PC these days?

These are machines with graphics not state of the arc.

[Jeff Layman]

I tried gvim and found that incomprehensible. Pluma is like gedit.

The simplest way to test is to create a small *.doc with a single line of recognisable wording. Then try to open that *.doc in a text viewer (or at least something which does not understand what a *.doc file is), and see if you can easily find your line of recognisable wording. The key word there is "easily", and the Notepad clone in Wine does it. But everything native to Linux I have tried either will not open the file at all, or the text is lost in a sea of code (with, for example, @^ between each letter).

[Clive George]

Use "strings" to recover text from binary cruft.

(wouldn't work for docx, that's zipped xml, so there won't be any chance of plain text to recover)

[Clive George]

...

AIUI Azure runs on a custom version of Windows Hyper-V. There's some linux networking in there, but the hypervisors are windows.

[whisky-dave]

An engine on it's own is pretty useless and I doubt any car is sold today with out suspension and at least some chrome.

[Jethro_uk]

Nope. (I'm runnning Mint here, btw)

I can connect a BT headset to my laptop, no problem. But I can't connect my mobile phone audio to the laptop so I can use my laptop as a headset to the phone. Apparently to do so needs the Hands Free Protocol part of the BT spec implemented, and Linux ... well.

There is a stab using Bluez and PulseAudio

But it's nowhere near plug and play.

[Jethro_uk]

I believe it's not a clone. It *is* Notepad.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Whoosh....

[whisky-dave]

Pity image edititng on linux it about 10 years behind windows or Mac OS maybe it'd be more popular if software people wanted to run actually ran on it.

Free software that doesn't do what you want in the way you want it done isn't worth much to most people, or rather those that have a computer to do particualar things.

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , dennis@home.? escribió:

I didn't think you could make yourself look any more of an idiot, but you've just succeeded. Congratulations.

[Clive George]

No, he's right, and Richard Stallman would agree - he's been making that point for years.

FSF/Gnu/Apache etc != Linux

[dennis]

Tomlinson is an idiot and he tries to make other people look like idiots. Best to ignore him. I have never seen him be helpful to any poster.

[Jeff Layman]

See third bullet point at 1.1.4 Quick Start here:

[dennis]

Just as well its a clone or you might need a windows licence to run it.

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , Clive George escribió:

I know. I didn't say otherwise. I called him an idiot because he's now trying to muddy the waters with irrelevant waffle about what is and what isn't open source.

I know. And its proper name is GNU/Linux.

[T i m]

On Thu, 01 Jun 2017 10:52:07 +0100, Martin Barclay drooled:

What I actually said was "It is / was not my primary objective to learn Linux', just as it has never been my primary objective to learn Windows, OSX, CPM or even BASIC. I have a life.

Cheers, T i m

[Clive George]

So why not just ignore his post? That would have served your argument rather better.

(my position on this argument used to be rather more pro linux, but these days I reckon anybody bothering to argue on either side is just being tedious.)

[Vir Campestris]

IIRC the bug had been in Linux for 7 years. As no white hat had spotted it nobody had fixed it. We have no information on whether any black hats have used it.

M$ are fairly good about fixing critical bugs, once found. It's the non-critical but annoying ones that hang about for years.

Andy

[Bob Eager]

And, to be pedantic, it wasn't in Linux code. It was in Samba.

Samba is developed by a team who do not intersect with the Linux developers. Samba is used on other platforms too - I don't use Linux, but I use Samba.

[Martin Barclay]

That's the best thing to do with D i mbo, ignore or bin.