Fence post- bitumen on lower end?

Hi all.
I get a bit obsessive in trying to make sure that the end results of my DIY jobs are long-lasting (where appropriate). On the matter of wooden fence p osts, is it likely to increase the life of the below ground section if I co ver that portion of the wood in bitumen? I imagine that preventing soaking from ground water should do some good.
Thanks.
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It is possible to purchase fence posts pressure treated with creosote from specialist suppliers.
The stretch of by-pass fencing through my farmland was completed in 1977 and is still sound (although not actually creosote and is fireproof with a mothball smell).
Someone was marketing plastic sleeves for protecting the area where soil bacteria/fungi are active but I've not seen any positive reports.

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On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 08:35:27 +0100, Tim Lamb

Is it still 'creosote' (was it ever) when wood is 'Tanalised'?
This give a description of what looks like an 'extended' process (but it might always have been like this):
http://tate-fencing.co.uk/about/tanalising-process/
I knew it generally use a lack of pressure (rather than 'pressure') to draw the preservative into the timber but the above link takes it further to potentially leave the surface of the timber 'drier'?
Seems there are quite a few different techniques ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_preservation#Pressure_processes
I have two 6" square gateposts and one has rotted off at ground level and the other seems to be as good as new. I've got two steel posts ready to go back in their place and the rest of the posts are concrete. ;-)
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No. Fence posts rot away at ground level. Get pressure treated ones.
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Even pressure treated one rot - after about 10 years - or less. Concrete spurs or "Metposts" keep the wood out of the ground.
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Well, the 47 y/o power poles we had replaced because of woodpecker damage were fine at ground level. But then, they're properly treated.

I'd go for the former. The latter don't have enough grip on the posts.
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I have an idea the utility companies may use *boron nails* as a life extender. Lots of poles end up on farms as fencing strainer posts.

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A fence I installed over 30 years ago using the Metposts is still fine. They were a make called Fensock which I don't think exists anymore. They clamp the timber with a pair of nuts and bolts which close the steal collar tightly around the post bottoms.
When I looked for something similar some years later, I couldn't find it. I could do with some now for a different fence if anyone knows of a source.
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:

I thought they all did that? I've helped the neighbour fit this type, the thin straps bite into the posts.
<https://lawsons.co.uk/product/category/1157/metpost/f25020040
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On Saturday, June 16, 2018 at 3:03:27 PM UTC+1, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

IME the posts never fit without a lot of buggering about. This maybe?
https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Landscaping/d130/Fence+Post+Metalwork+%26+Tools/sd3224/Drive-in+Post+Anchor/p12179
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Yes, those are very similar design, thanks!
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 09:13:14 -0700 (PDT), stuart noble wrote:

Every time that I've used those there seems to be a stone deep down that couses a twist. It's never near the surface where the twist could be corrected. With about 50 cm. of fins in the ground and the stone, it's impossible to twist it back.
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Somewhere, I still have the Fensock dummy that goes into the socket for hammering them into the ground. It's a short length of fence post but much harder wood, with a metal cap on the top where the hammer hits it, and a metal rod through it so you can twist to keep the socket square as you hammer it in. ISTR it was quite expensive, but wouldn't be hard to make if you could get a short length of 4x4 hardwood.
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On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 09:54:08 +0100 (GMT+01:00)

You don't need to, it's in his headers: "knews 1.0c.0"

They display properly on this machine.

As you seem to be using "PiaoHong.Usenet.Client.Free:1.65" I'd wager it's your end that's getting its bits in a twist.
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It's an ancient Motif-based news reader. (That reminds me someone asked me to upload the source code to github, as I may have the only copy that still exists. I didn't write it, although I have had to modify it to add authentication.)

I think that's something your newsreader is doing. Knews is old enough to moan at me if I post lines longer than 72 characters, just in case someone can't read it on their KSR33.

Your posts seem to indent the second and subsequent line of each paragraph, which is not something I've noticed in anyone else's posts. I don't see any headers in your posts indicating that this is a feature of any strange transfer encoding. Just for fun, I've done this explicitly in this paragraph.

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I'm using slrn, which still does this. There are still a fair few slrn users, AFAIK.
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I misformatted the last paragraph like your articles are. So this implies PiaoHong.Usenet.Client.Free is making incorrect assumptions about usenet article formatting.

PiaoHong.Usenet.Client.Free has had no updates since 2014, and most of the (very few) reviews are 1-3 stars.
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On Saturday, 16 June 2018 15:03:27 UTC+1, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

You can't find them because they are called metAposts https://www.diy.com/departments/outdoor-garden/garden-fence-panels-gates/fence-post-support/DIY585883.cat
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:42:17 -0700 (PDT), harry

Up to your usual tricks again I see, Harry, not reading your own links! On the one you provided, they're called Metposts, without the 'A' in the middle, and there are plenty of other links calling them Metposts. https://www.google.com/search?q=metpost+fence+post&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 10:42:17 -0700, harry wrote:

gates/fence-post-support/DIY585883.cat
Wrong once more, harry.
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