Do builders care about Building Regs?

I recently posted about issues I had with a house I'm selling (an RSJ to provide support after a previously removed chimney breast in the kitchen).
As that house sale is progressing I now realise that I've had two lots of work done on my new home, and in neither case did anyone mention Building Regs:
1) In an attempt to make more space in the attic a previous owner had removed the brick supports to the purlins resulting in a sag in the roof.
I got structural engineers to design a correction and used builder they recommended to implement it. Not a word about Building Regs.
2) In knocking one room into another a previous owner had left an arch as it was at the centre of the house where the ceiling joists were supported. The last owner didn't like the arch so they removed it.
The roofer who re-felted my flat roof said he would fix it, nice big wooden beam locked either end into the brickwork, neatly plaster boarded. Not a word about Building Regs.
I don't want a repeat of the hassle if this house is sold though the modern day solution seems to be to buy Indemnity Insurance.
Or should I just bite the bullet and ring the Council?
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On Thursday, 20 July 2017 12:55:02 UTC+1, AnthonyL wrote:

I think all you've done is repair and maintenance of the existing building isn't it?
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Be worth getting a structural engineer in to look at works done and do a report.
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 13:59:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"

Didn't I say that I already did at the time? And how does that help with the need for Building Regs?
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Sorry - thought you were referring to other work done too.
A decent structural engineer will also advise about getting retrospective building regs approval. They tend to be well up on that sort of thing.
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:50:29 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"

The work has been done. Neither the surveyor who noticed the problems nor the structural engineer who did the calcs nor the builder who did the work mentioned Building Regs - hence the subject.
Sorry I thought I'd said most of that in my OP.
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I sort of read you were unsure about the work so reluctant to contact the council about getting the correct paperwork. If you are sure it is all fine, and have an engineer's report saying so, all that there would be to worry about was getting the paperwork?
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On 20-Jul-17 12:55 PM, AnthonyL wrote:

Building regulations approval is the responsibility of the property owner, not the workmen employed to do the work.
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wrote:

It may well be but I'd suspect that the average builder would now that and the average householder would not.
In getting the remedial work carried out it never occured to me on an of the occasions to ring the Council and no-one else ever raised the issue. I'm only now aware of it because of the issues being raised during the conveyancing.
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On 21-Jul-17 9:25 AM, AnthonyL wrote:

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Ignorance of the law is no defence.

I have had quite a lot of building work done over the years, including some that needed planning permission and/or building regulations approval. None of the builders concerned have ever asked whether the work was approved, nor would I expect them to.
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I often wonder if the council care either. Many now contract this expertise out to a private company. I think you are now seeing how com such a litany of errors can occur. No one person or company knows the whole picture. Brian
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On 20/07/2017 22:07, Brian Gaff wrote:

Most structural calculations have made outside of the council for a while.
I guess it's in part a liability issue but might also demonstrate the limited abilities of planning/building officers.
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I've no experience of them recently. Could be more difficult if a privatized facility. When got the building inspector in many years ago to advise on some DIY modifications, he said I needed a structural engineer to do the calcs. Which I did. The BI checked the work as I progressed with it, based on the SE data.
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when i first bought the house i got local builders (Caldicotts of Leominste r) to put in an RSJ. the supports looked dodgy to me - they used exisiting brickwork which was already cracked, I called in council Building Inspector , he agreed with me, and made them come back and but concrete blocks undern eath it. For no extra money
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 04:17:29 -0700 (PDT), DICEGEORGE

But again, as per my subject, the work was done without prior approval.
Wasn't the Building Inspector somewhat peeved?
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a canny buyer just before completion can 'notice' the lack of paperwork and make you knock down many thousands from the price [g]
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And a canny seller will tell him to get stuffed.
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On 20/07/2017 12:55, AnthonyL wrote:

From a builders PoV the less paperwork involved the better.
The decent ones will keep informed of the BR requirements and make sure their work complies, but that does not necessarily mean that they will necessarily want to mess about with LABC unless they feel they have to. Having said that, some will process paperwork with them automatically and might not think to discuss it with the customer unless they bring up the subject.

Bit late by the sounds of it... There is a window of enforcement that is usually limited to two years - so after that the LABC department is not going to be able to instruct changes etc even if non compliant.

Depends a bit on what you are attempting to achieve.
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 12:23:00 +0100, John Rumm

I'm trying to achieve avoidance of hassle if I sell, or in due course, my executors or my wife, sell this house.
I'm personally satisfied the work is satisfactory - the purlin work was done in accordance with structural engineer calcs, and the wooden beam (now plaster board enclosed) is massive (8" x 4" for a 6'6" span) and well embedded into the brickwork either side. I've also got lots of photos of both sets of work being done.
If I contact the Council now they could make it it awkward, I mean previous owners have taken out purlin supports and ceiling joists supports (how stupid I know). Are the Council likely to take issue with them?
And I've had the work done without Council approval, are they likely to take issue with that?
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AIUI, once you sell a property, you cease to have any responsibility for such matters. The buyer assumes such responsibility.
Assuming your house isn't listed, I'd have thought contacting the council would be the way to go.
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