DAB aerial

In article , Dave Plowman (News) writes

Fair comment;)

Thats cos sets were expensive the right sort of silicon wasn't around..

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tony sayer
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In article , Mark writes

No not so. Ever heard 405 line TV sound?, and just how good that was?. AM or FM doesn't really matter in this instance. What many confuse is that AM on Medium frequencies is bandwidth limited which makes it sound inferior compared to VHF/FM. It is true that FM is a much better rejecter of interference than FM providing thats over threshold but otherwise not.

The only poorer quality issue with Multiplex is a worsening of the Signal to noise ratio...

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tony sayer

In article , Dave Plowman (News) writes

Thats a relative thing Dave and isn't a consideration. Just because they want to be louder then anything else on the dial isn't a problem of the FM system.

Course theres MPEG coding where we throw away information and intensity stereo and other digital horrors!..

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tony sayer

In article , Brian Sharrock writes

Have a Google for the Zenith GE stereo system.....

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tony sayer

Sigh. The majority of radio listening is on some form of portable or mobile receiver. Satellite simply isn't suitable for this. Nor is FM ideal...

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Dave Plowman (News)

And the problem with DAB radio in this country isn't inherent but in the way it's implemented?

FM stereo compromises audio bandwidth to below what is the norm for reasonable Hi-Fi equipment.

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Dave Plowman (News)

In article , Dave Plowman (News) writes

Yes I know that.. it was just to point out that digital platforms both TV and Radio could be very much better but that the broadcasters see that quantity over quality is far more important!...

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tony sayer

In article , Dave Plowman (News) writes

Yes it is. The whole is rather questionable from the concept of a MUX owner to ye olde world codec...

It does not!, just because it cuts of at 15 kHz rather then 20 kHz is bugger all to do with it, and you as a sound engineer ought to know that!..

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tony sayer

Commercial broadcasters survive by selling advertising. If there was this great demand for high quality surely one would fulfil that gap? But I repeat the fact that when DAB used a higher data rate the take up was poor.

BTW, you missed out FreeView as a source of radio. Cheap hardware and most have the necessary aerial already in place.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Well you seem to be throwing specs around as a be all and end all. FM is

*not* a perfect system and never has been.
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Dave Plowman (News)

In article , Dave Plowman (News) writes

Conkers.. like any new tech the initial take up is poor 'cos the gear costs too much at first..

Not that this was "new" tech....

Indeed 'tho you can't carry it around with you;!...

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tony sayer

In article , Dave Plowman (News) writes

And this new wonder DAB system eh?.

The Jazz at 128 K Mono.. real new world is that;!...

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tony sayer

CD took off pretty quickly. As did colour TV.

A reply to your bit about satellite radio.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Well as we used to say when the needle on the korg was at least visible somewhere on the scale 'good enough for Jazz'

Let's face it, since its all played 'between the notes' by drunken egotists, the bitrate hardly matters does it?

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The Natural Philosopher

In article , Dave Plowman (News) writes

Yes they did as they offered something better Higher quality and colour!.

Have you ever thought Dave just how many new cars, and trucks, and lorries are delivered daily without a DAB radio in the dashboard?..

Indeed. But the good old UK has someway to go the match the Germans on that.. Bayern Klassik 4 and its ilk on 320K MP2 and 440 odd for 5.1 surround sound:)

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tony sayer

And I suppose a lorra rock on more solid mind altering substances;?....

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tony sayer

It's trad, dad. :-)

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The Natural Philosopher

Their loss. I'd suggest you try it in a car. It is quite simply miles better than FM. And that's not just in this part of London.

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Dave Plowman (News)

In article , Dave Plowman (News) writes

If its so wonderful I wonder why most all newly supplied cars don't have it fitted. A serious problem seeing that a lot of radio listening is done in-car.

And it isn't superb all over the country a lot of the country isn't served as yet!.....

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tony sayer

Quite simply because car makers fit the cheapest rubbish they can get - in general.

Nor is FM. After 50 years...

The furthest north I've been as yet with the new DAB radio is Lincoln and the furthest south Brighton. Lincoln I wouldn't expect to be a difficult reception area, but round the south downs is. It worked extremely well on the journey to both destinations.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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