Was it Grand Designs 2 weeks ago (before the Lake District one) where they
had an old terraced house that they gutted and rebuilt? It could have been
another programme as we've been watching various old recordings of Grand
Designs, Other People's Houses and Property Ladder over the days.
Did anyone find it worrying to see how the place had originally been built?
No foundations, piers which were crumbling, walls not joined together....
However, seeing how long its been standing, makes you wonder whether some of
the current Building Regulations are a bit OTT.
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This is surely linked to the rule -- which usually applies, but not
always -- that you shouldn't start stripping back an old house to the
structure unless you're prepared to rebuild.
Structural intervention often causes failures that otherwise wouldn't
have occurred: with an old, poorly-built, but *stable* house, it's
often the act of unnecessary stripping-back that breaks things, rather
than the poor initial work itself (which over time can find a sort of
When my (probably 17th/18th) century cottage was demolished, we found no
foundations beyond a brick plinth laid in very wet clay, and heaps of
dross inside the chimneys where you wouldn't see it.
It would still have been sound if lack of mauntenance hadn't caused the
main timber to rot beyond economic repair.
New one went in with similar structure, but 2.8m deep concrete
underneath...old lime mortar and timber just moves around to soak up
subsidence and rot :-)
Thers a place in Lavenham, suffolk, where you can learly see one wall
has slipped down about 3 fet - windows are now rhomboid, and its just
been fixed up that way. Its listed now :-)
I have a building stood on the top (very edge) of a cliff, made of rubble 150+
years ago, zero foundation, just a layer of big stones.
The survayor said, its been there 150 year why worry ?
Building regs to alter is - nightmare !!!
But its like lots of stuff, it goes wrong once, and a do gooder runs a campain
to get the law changed, and it costs us all lots of money.
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:38:31 +0100, "David Hearn"
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 10:38:31 +0100, a particular chimpanzee named
keyboard and produced:
The houses you see now are the ones that survived. There were plenty
of Jerry-built houses in the 18th & 19th century which collapsed soon
after they were built. If you ever go to Bath, look at Camden
Crescent. The crescent should have extended to the east, but it was
built on unstable ground and slipped down the hill (now Hedgemead
There are aspects to 'traditional' construction (solid walls, weak
mortar, draughty windows, etc) that helped the buildings to survive
the poor construction, that are not acceptable to owners now. Higher
standards of insulation, structural stability, fire safety, etc,
demand different construction techniques and materials.
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