Yes, thanks, they were list in JL, £85 at Richer Sounds, and as you say,
£72 refurb. Still wouldn't buy one - if it sounded half decent, I might.
Although many on the amazon reviews seem very happy. Oh well.
I would still comment as I did before that IME Pure radios (en bloc)
have a very limited high frequency response and seem to have low
frequencies boosted that makes them boomy.
I would suggest to the OP that he buys from such as John Lewis so that
he can take it back if it is unsuitable.
No, its like that whether on DAB or FM. Compare it with, say, a Sony
or Panasonic and the difference jumps out at you.
We have an Evoke 1. I've had a bad cold over the hols and it resulted
in a degree of deafness. I turned the Evoke on in the kitchen to
listen to the Today prog and with that set at a level that I could
hear (not that much higher than normal) it was impossible to listen
to. It was so boomy the case rattled and the sound broke up like
bubbling mud even though we (now) have a good signal and it doesn't do
it at lower levels. I even tried plugging the bass port underneath
with a large cork but it made no difference.
It is a "feature" rather than a benefit of almost all of the modern
smallish domestic kit. Done I presume for the aging disco ghetto blaster
generation. They probably can't hear the high frequencies anyway.
Japanese makers seem a lot less inclined to shake their box to bits.
Pure, Roberts and quite likely most of the others too. DAB basic rate
isn't all that bad unless you put it up against a good FM receiver or
original source material and then the losses are very obvious.
UK DAB isn't helped by its inability to work in many places without a
significant aerial and even then there is a tendency in bad weather to
get announcers who sound like they are gargling whilst trying to speak.
Driving down the A1 there are several bad DAB dead spots.
On Thursday, 5 January 2017 11:11:55 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
0430 UTC: BBC Worldservice on local DAB - burbling. On local FM 95.9 kHz -keeps cutting out. On 6005 kHz from Ascension Island - 100% copy.
When we bought our DAB radio it was the future. DAB was going to be
better than FM. Now it's about like AM.
And DAB+ won't help. They'll cram even more stations in with an even
lower bitrate until the man in the street starts to complain.
Or switches to internet radio...
DAB is certainly inferior to FM (and also to the sound channel on any of
TDTV, Freesat TV using either radio or TV channels on them).
It is interesting to do A B switching on the Proms since the satellite
time delay allows you to listen to the same short chunk of music twice.
DAB was almost acceptable until they cut the bitrate down (and would
have been acceptable if they had used the right ie newer codec).
There is nothing wrong with internet radio at all. My "DAB" tuner spends
all its time streaming internet radio these days.
R3 at 320kbps is as near perfect as makes no difference.
I was replying to it being inferior in sound to AM. ;-)
AM is band limited to approx 4.5kHz and many receivers can't even manage
Which isn't a true AB test.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Internet radio in the car?
The question was about clock radios. On the tiny speaker(s) most of those
have and the pretty basic electronics, the differences in audio quality
between DAB an FM etc simply ain't going to be noticed. Poor reception on
any of them might well be, though.
I have an audio analogue distribution system to every room in this house.
One very real benefit of using the same source in every room is the same
delay (or whatever) to all. Although I originally installed it due to very
poor FM reception in this part of London making portable radios near
It has 5 stereo circuits. Four radio tuners - all now FreeView - and the
output of the main system in the living room. 4 radio channels covers
pretty well all I ever want - although there are tuners in the main system.
In my bedroom, I have a pair of Chartwell LS 3/5s ceiling mounted over the
end of the bed. Switched by an alarm.
*Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups *
Dave Plowman email@example.com London SW
It is plenty good enough to spot what is missing from DAB audio.
ISTR Cutting the bitrate was done after introduction. Using the wrong
codec was a poor engineering decision probably made by beancounters.
You could do it for about £1.44 @ 320kbps on Threes 123 PAYG tariff or
for free if you have all you can eat mobile broadband. DAB is fine for
in car use since engine noise disguises all its shortcomings. The only
thing that DAB does better than FM is the dead air between programmes.
DAB invariably has poor reception except perhaps in central London.
The flanging effect of different DAB radios in different rooms is
hilarious. Decoder delays vary by noticeable fractions of a second.
That is a fairly hefty alarm sound system with BBC monitor clones.
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