Cleaning pewter

I have 2 pewter tankards dated 1877. They are quite seriously tarnished. Should I clean them? If so what with?

They are trophies for sports, lidded and with glass bottoms. Made by James Dixon & Sons.

Hugh

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Hugh Newbury
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Short answer no.

Long answer attacking antiques with metal polish etc generally knocks quids off their value. The patena is part of their history. A gently wash and wipe maybe but not a polish removing the patena.

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Dave Liquorice

Pewter isn't generally considered to "tarnish" (as silver does), but rather to "patinate". The difference is like garden weeds: a weed is just a flower in the wrong place. Patina on pewter is an even grey that is generally considered to be an inherent part of pewter's appearance. It would be remarkable to try to change this at all, once formed.

Pewter doesn't usually tarnish, unless it has some sort of spill upon it. Jugs used for flowers are the usual culprits.

Pewter may also be dirty. It might certainly want cleaning.

It's also possible that they're not pewter, but silver (or plate) and this silver has become so badly tarnished as to look like pewter! It's not common, but it's a great find when you do get one. So check the maker's marks, touchmarks or even a halllmark.

I would be amazed if removing the patina was appropriate.

If you care about these pieces, first acquire some charity shop teapots and practise. If you're lucky, you might even turn up a Tudric or something that's worth selling afterwards. BTW - charity shop tankards are usually modern, a different alloy and don't handle in a very similar way.

Cleaning can be done with a range of powerful chemistry, but just avoid mechanical abrasion. Pewter is soft, so even rubbing with a coarse cloth will affect that patina on edges or fine detail. If the pewter has any sort of surface texture, be very careful with it. You should also try to identify what the staining is, and choose your weapons accordingly.

If it's organic (i.e. oily) grime, then start with organic solvents. The old favourites of isopropanol, acetone, liquid lighter fuel, sticky label remover, brake cleaner and carburettor cleaner aerosols are all useful (in much that order). Work with cotton wool makeup pads. Don't use a cloth, because cloths get pulled tight and tight abrasives round over corners and destroy detail.

If it's cheap stuff in bulk, then just dishwash them! Finish (not Persil) does a decent job. Watch out for wooden, ivory or early plastic knobs and handles though.

Ultrasonic cleaning is a good technique for brooches, badges and small stuff small enough to submerge in your cleaner. Don't semi-immerse big pieces or you'll get tidemarks.

Limescale-like staining can be shifted with a range of chemicals, from steradent tablets, through perborate laundry bleaches (i.e. "oxygen" bleaches as white powders, rather than chlorine or hypochlorite bleaches), up to sulphamic acid-based kettle descaler. You can also have a dental hygienist take a go at it, because their Air-flow machines (miniature bicarbonate of soda sandblasters) are great for this.

If all else fails, there's oxalic acid, aka Barkeeper's Fiend. Dead handy, but it'll trash a lot of the patina. For use when it's bright green with copper verdigris from something else and the alternative is a mechanical repolishing.

Strong alkaline cleaners, like the old Mr Muscle (no longer available) used to have their place here too, although don't say I didn't warn you to test and practice beforehand. Alkalis are a good way to attack particularly recalcitrant greasy stuff.

This is about the point when you transition from cleaning to repolishing. Repolishing is always bad in antiques, because it removes material that can't be replaced. The difference between a museum and an antique shop is that a museum will go to insane lengths to avoid this, but an antique shop wants a one-off restoration for "Shiny now!" and to just get it out of the door. Afterwards is not their problem.

Tarnish (as opposed to patina) is like limescale, only worse. It's some chemical change to the surface. You're not going to clean this off, you're going to either live with it, or repolish.

Repolishing pewter is dead easy, as it's an easy metal to work with. Repolish with the softer end of the usual jeweller's abrasives, finishing up with tripoli powder. You might even use heavyweight abrasives like fine Garryflex blocks or 3M / Webrax scourer pads, but that's pretty heavy-handed and won't do inscriptions any favours. Modernist pewter might have scratch-brushed or matted surfaces, for which you use a nickel wire brush (use the right brush!), but not this sort of piece.

By this point, the surface is also "active" and is very sensitive to staining, before a future patina develops. Only handle it with cotton or vinyl gloves.

If you want to preserve the "as cleaned" look as much as possible, then wax polish it afterwards with Renaissance Wax (_not_ any other wax polishes) and don't handle it.

Reply to
Andy Dingley

Thanks both. It really is pewter, not silver etc because of the marks. I'll have a think about it, and maybe start with just washing.

Hugh

Reply to
Hugh Newbury

To wash anything that might be damaged by harsh chemicals (including detergents) I use Ecover washing up liquid as its pH is, IIRC, about 5.5 before dilution. There is a small amount of salt in it, though.

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PeterC

Can we put that on the wiki?

NT

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NT

Used to clean old pewter rowing tankards with Brasso - brings them up a treat!

Reply to
Phil

Feel free.

Reply to
Andy Dingley

I'd never use Brasso on _anything_, and particularly not for brass!

Brasso is basically tripoli powder (a fine abrasive) in a carrier liquid. However it uses ammonia as an anti-flocculant, to stop the powder clumping and settling out. Although it polishes well, residual ammonia will encourage rapid tarnishing afterwards, particularly on brass. The trouble with Brasso is that once you've used it, you're stuck using it repeatedly.

The other problem with Brasso is leaving light-coloured tripoli behind afterwards in the corners or in any engraving.

Reply to
Andy Dingley

Always worked fine for me!

Reply to
Phil

It's abrasive enough that it's good for a first pass over serious scratches on CDs and DVDs...

Reply to
Jules Richardson

I don't think anyone was suggesting it would not work...

Reply to
John Rumm

Cheers. Done

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NT

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