Cigarette smoke

[Frank Erskine]

Andy - I thought you were against involving government-type people ;-)

I agree though.

Seasonal greetings anyway.

[Steve Firth]

Umm no, wishful thinking on your part. And don't try to tell me otherwise, tobacco smoke is one of the most noxious chemcial arsenals around for (some) asthmatics.

[Bazza]

Won't try to tell you otherwise as obviously you are one of the people who have been totally sucked in by the anti smoking lobbies propaganda. A lot of the information given out about second hand smoke has no scientifically proven figures to back it up, just a lot of spin.

Try the name 3 game: Name 3 people that have died from second hand smoke?

yes I do smoke and enjoy it but I have always been sensitive to people who don't smoke, I have no time for fanatics of any persuasion.

Interesting that cases of asthma have steadily increased over the years whilst at the same time smoking has decreased or is that what the official figures want us to believe

[The Medway Handyman]

I wouldn't try to tell you anything, you obviously know it all.

[George]

pubs have smelt of sweat and puke since the smoking ban..

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[Frank Erskine]

My local hasn't.

In fact there's still a cigarette smell brought in on peoples clothes, and wafting in from the smoking 'area' outside.

[Andy Hall]

Not the ones that I visit.

It's possible to eat in some of them now as well, whereas it wasn't before.

[geraldthehamster]

smoke?

't that a bit like the "name three living Chinese" game ?

Regards Richard

[Huge]

Sigh. Tobacco smoke is full of carcinogens. End of debate. If you brownthroats want to go on justifying your vile and antisocial habit (and dying like flies) you go right ahead. After all, you fund the NHS and the pension funds and then die, horribly and early.

[Alan]

In message , George wrote

I wonder why you didn't notice that the pubs you go to were not kept in a hygienic condition before? If your local now smells of puke then you should be drinking elsewhere. It is a reflection on the priority the publican gives to cleanliness and probably reflects on his ability to keep his beer lines and kitchen work surfaces clean.

That horrible smell of sweat is that aroma on smokers cloths that other people in a clean atmosphere notice when a smoker is close by!

[The Medway Handyman]

But second hand smoke isnt - us smokers filter it for you. The poison is in the dose.

More non smokers die each year than smokers - (FX)maniacal laughter(FX)

At last someones twigged it. Us smokers are a benefit to society and should be revered as such.

[The Medway Handyman]

It might well be, if anyone knew what it was. Google doesn't.

[Huge]

Yes it is.

And don't bother denying it. I think I'll take the word of the biochemists who trained me over that of a handyman, thanks.

[dmc]

So you are claiming that second hand tobacco smoke doesn't cause problems for some asthmatics?

Not really. I'm not sure I've ever seen smoking listed as a cause of asthma. Sure as hell triggers mine but I'd not think to claim it caused me to suffer from it in the first place.

Darren

[dmc]

I *know* tobacco smoke is a trigger for my asthma. Not convinced it's anything to do with the chemical make up - more the particulates I guess.

Wood smoke does the same as does rabbits fur and some cats. Odd.

Evil smelly smoke from burning tyres or plastic doesn't seem to trigger it though (although I'm sure will kill be in other ways)

Darren

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Eat well from microwave menus? Ok if you like that sort of thing. There used to be two pubs near here that did decent home cooking - but only at lunchtime. They both are now 'gourmet' 'pubs' with posh dining areas which serve food all day. Straight from the microwave. Oh - and are no longer pubs worth visiting for the sort of thing most enjoyed pubs for.

[Andy Hall]

I certainly don't, which is why I choose carefully.

Fortunately they are easy to identify and to avoid.

You mean that they don't look after the beer properly either?

[geraldthehamster]

It's like when someone says there are 1.3 billion Chinese. The fact that you can't name three of them doesn't make it less true.

Regards Richard

[The Medway Handyman]

Its nothing like that at all. We have scientific evidence that there are a certain number of Chinese.

[Mark]

We do a locally brewed real ale called Dogs Breath, its really nice and very popular (4.9 ABV) but has a very short shelf life. You can probably guess by the name what it smells like when past its best.

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