Best way to establish a short

[John Borman]

....... I was thinking about this one last night actually, whilst holding a pint of festive beer, I was sure there was two RCD's to the board... but infact there was one and for some stupid reason I didn't realise that I had wired the N to the wrong block (Think it was the lack of lights whilst wiring up the CU under the stairs) Anyhow Thanks for all your help its now sorted, (Don't worry once its finished its being commissioned (Or not) by an electrician).

Once again thanks alot and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year John

[BigWallop]

You shouldn't have anything connected to the cables while you megger test them. Appliances don't like having huge spikes up 'em. :-)

[John Rumm]

I know that is the accepted wizdom, but I am sure I have seen some dimmers that claim to be OK with testing (at 500V anyway). Not sure about electronic transformers though.

[ARWadsworth]

Best way to establish a short.

Try connecting live and earth together. That should do it ;-)

Adam

[Bill]

In message , ARWadsworth writes

I don't think that was quite the way the question was intended to be read, but a good concise answer. Having done it I can confirm it works though.

[Bill]

1 teaspoon sage 2 onions 6 cloves garlic bunch green onions, chopped

Cut the children?s butts and the beef roast into pieces that will fit in the grinder. Run the meat through using a 3/16 grinding plate. Add garlic, onions and seasoning then mix well. Add just enough water for a smooth consistency, then mix again. Form the sausage mixture into patties or stuff into natural casings.

Stillborn Stew

By definition, this meat cannot be had altogether fresh, but have the lifeless unfortunate available immediately after delivery, or use high quality beef or pork roasts (it is cheaper and better to cut up a whole roast than to buy stew meat).

1 stillbirth, de-boned and cubed ¼ cup vegetable oil 2 large onions bell pepper celery garlic ½ cup red wine 3 Irish potatoes 2 large carrots

This is a simple classic stew that makes natural gravy, thus it does not have to be thickened. Brown the meat quickly in very hot oil, remove and set aside. Brown the onions, celery, pepper and garlic. De-glaze with wine, return meat to the pan and season well. Stew on low fire adding small amounts of water and seasoning as necessary. After at least half an hour, add the carrots and potatoes, and simmer till root vegetables break with a fork. Cook a fresh pot of long grained white rice.

Pre-mie Pot Pie

When working with prematurely delivered newborns (or chicken) use sherry; red wine with beef (buy steak or roast, do not pre-boil).

Pie crust (see index) Whole fresh pre-mie; eviscerated, head, hands and feet removed Onions, bell pepper, celery ½ cup wine Root vegetables of choice (turnips, carrots, potatoes, etc) cubed

Make a crust from scratch - or go shamefully to the frozen food section of your favorite grocery and select 2 high quality pie crusts (you will need

[ARWadsworth]

butter, vegetable platter, tossed salad with tomato and avocado, parsley new potatoes, spinich cucumber salad, fruit salad Bran muffins, dinner rolls, soft breadsticks, rice pilaf, croissants Apple cake with rum sauce, frosted banana nut bread sherbet, home made brownies Iced tea, water, beer, bloody marys, lemonade, coffee

The guests select food, beverages, silverware... everything from the buffet table. They move to wherever they are comfortable, and sit with whoever they choose. Provide trays so your guests will not spill everything all over your house from carrying too much, nor will they have to make 10 trips back and fourth from the service stations.

Roast Leg of Amputee

By all means, substitute lamb or a good beef roast if the haunch it is in any way diseased. But sometimes surgeons make mistakes, and if a healthy young limb is at hand, then don?t hesitate to cook it to perfection!

1 high quality limb, rack, or roast Potatoes, carrot Oil celery onions green onions parsley garlic salt, pepper, etc 2 cups beef stock

Marinate meat (optional, not necessary with better cuts). Season liberally and lace with garlic cloves by making incisions, and placing whole cloves deep into the meat. Grease a baking pan, and fill with a thick bed of onions, celery, green onions, and parsley. Place roast on top with fat side up. Place uncovered in 500° oven for 20 minutes, reduce oven to 325°. Bake till medium rare (150°) and let roast rest. Pour stock over onions and drippings, carve the meat and place the slices in the au jus.

Bisque à l?Enfant

Honor the memory of Grandma with this dish by utilizing her good silver soup tureen and her great grandchildren (crawfish, crab or lobster will work just as

[N. Thornton]

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Yes, I would tend to agree. I once worked briefly doing insulation testing of transformers, and there were many failures that were only picked up when the voltage was cranked up. But once that fault current flows it leaves behind charcoal, and a multimeter can usually detect that. With house wiring faults, enough fault current has flown for long enough that something has tripped more than once, so almost inevitably a meter can pick it up, though there's no guarantee.

I just always expect to be chastised for suggesting using a low v test :)

Hope you had a good christmas.

NT

[Andy Hall]

Talking of chastisement, please could you use a proper newsreader, even if it's a free one, because these Google Groups posts create new threads each time and destroy the flow of existing ones. Very irritating.

It would be much appreciated.

thanks.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Yup. Certainly the common household faults that cause an RCD to trip - like a leaky immersion heater - will be picked up by a decent DVM.

That's not to say a pro shouldn't use a proper meter - after all they've come down in price - but for DIY a DVM will probably head up any likely faults.

[Al Reynolds]

Ironically, this is one instance where Outlook Express appears to be having no problem with the threads. Do you think Google have been nobbled by MS into posting articles which will only thread correctly in MS newsreaders? Or are Google just assuming that everyone uses OE?

Al

[Lurch]

On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 20:20:43 -0000, "Al Reynolds" strung together this:

I don't use OE, but from a thread on another group there are a couple of settings in OE that thread by date, title etc.. as well as or instead of the References:. In this instance some of OE's randomness works for some people, if they happen to have certain boxes ticked.

[Dave Stanton]

I expect MS are trying to 'own' usenet as well. Of course we all know it wont work.

Dave