Best type of central heating

Just to be totally accurate, could that be rephrased to "Whether or not you believe that global warming is man-made ..."? No one is disputing the warming (at least no one I know).

No argument there.

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Grunff
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Tripe! Do some more research. You are writing a paper on energy and never knew of the mCHP units being installed? My, oh, my....I hope it is thrown in the bin.

- Distributed power is a reality as 550 microCHP Stirling boilers are being implemented right now in Manchester by Powergen. Powergen have ordered

80,000 units.

- Wind is a reality and being implemented right now.

- High insulation standards for houses is a reality and being implemented right now, although not strong enough.

You can go further:

- Houses can be a hell lot better by implementing superinsulation and air-tight homes, as in Canada. The country is embarking a massive house building programme. They could all be passive solar, superinsulated and have mCHP units feeding the grid.

- The super clean SteamCell, using ceramic no-flame burners is a reality and a version is available for mCHP (size of a tower PC) , and car engines, although they are not pushing that market as the auto giants will not budge from the vested interest of the IC engine. It doesn't have oil lubrication. It is claimed to use 10 times less energy than current fuel cells. External combustion and runs on ay fuel inc hydrogen.

- Implement energy efficient appliances and "make them mandatory". The current AAA is way out of date as many makers totally exceed this rating.

- Implement district CHP as in Scandinavia, but using fuel or steam cell technology for generation.

Implement the above and there will be no need for nuclear power stations. All it needs is a re-think.

  1. Think local generation not national grid, (although allow power to use the grid to take maybe wind from the coast to other parts)
  2. Integrate not separate.

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Doctor Evil

People who have never tried one. Mine works. If they disagree then they show ignorance on the matter.

I find reaction to my points more than amusing. The reaction of the ignorant ones is amazing. What amazes is that they do actually believe they are right.

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Doctor Evil

If the US won't let developing countries develop nuclear energy (cf. Iran) how is nuclear energy useful in a worldwide sense? What energy source is the rest of the world to use? If we have power (because we have nuclear energy) and they haven't, 09-11 will become a weekly occurrence, eventually, and what will they be targeting? Nuclear power stations, of course.

How much more energy than a `normal' home do these homes use in construction?

`no-flame burner'???

I'd certainly like to see serious effort put in in such areas. I can't help thinking that, if we're going to depend on nuclear power, we have to let the rest of the world depend on it as well, and if there's insufficient trust to allow that to happen, we don't exactly claim the moral high ground, do we?

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Sam Nelson

There's bound to be someone. And s/he'll have evidence to back it up. Whether opr not the evidence is valid is another matter.

It hasn't shown any signs of going down. The level of complaints about the price rises, that's all.

Mary

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Mary Fisher

It's ONE way. I'm not claiming that there's a single solution to all energy problems, perceived or otherwise.

Hmm. Need vs want ... Most, if not all of us (including me) use far more than we need. We just want it. And we're spending our resources at the expense of living creatures now and the future.

The city isn't a nice place to live for those who like clean air and see huge waste of energy of all kinds.

As it happens I think that wind farms have an elegance of their own but that's subjective. I also think that pylons which litter the country - all over it, make the country not a nice place to live.

Mary

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Mary Fisher

I agree 100%.

But most countries' governments seem to think that they're different from every other :-(

So do most people :-((

There are as many 'special cases' as there are units of population.

Mary

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Mary Fisher

'Juice' cost the same as 'normal' npower electricity, although Atlantic and 'online' tarrifs are cheaper still

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Nick Finnigan

Nice point.

But you have to feed those too. Warm boots are the thing!

Next weekend we'll be under canvas with others in tents also. They're all moaning about how cold it will be. I say that if they don't know how to keep warm in winter they shouldn't be doing it.

Mary

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Mary Fisher

"Mary Fisher" wrote | > If you take a look at previous postings from Dr Evil/IMM | Is THAT who it is! | I hadn't realised ... doh ...

If you look at the anagram it gives a clue - dr.evil = drivel

Owain

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Owain

construction?

Just about none. They don't have a heating system that needs constant replacing over its lifetime, so one more than cancels the other out.

Yep. There is a no-flame gas boiler for sale too. The Sogno.

Good points.

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Doctor Evil

:-)

Never noticed that. I'm slipping in my dotage!

Mary

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Mary Fisher

"Mary Fisher" wrote in news:4222f500$0$2651$ snipped-for-privacy@master.news.zetnet.net:

I was trying to get my head round the idea (on this site) that it feeds elecricity via a 13 amp plug.

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Plug'n'Save produces 240 VAC. There have been plenty of threads identifying the problems in doing this with petrol/diesel generators. Why would it be any different for wind power?

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Rod Hewitt

Yes, that's been pointed out by others. Among other potential drawbacks.

Mary

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Mary Fisher

"Mary Fisher" wrote | > Cats are a pretty useful back-up too. | But you have to feed those too. Warm boots are the thing!

Cat fur's a nice warm lining ....

| Next weekend we'll be under canvas with others in tents also. | They're all moaning about how cold it will be. I say that | if they don't know how to keep warm in winter they shouldn't | be doing it.

If they were doing it perhaps it would help keep them warm. Or would the sleeping bag just get clammy?

Owain

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Owain

Actually there is some benefit to be had from undergrunding the lot and going DC.

Now we have high power voltage conversion technology..

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The Natural Philosopher

Interesting question....

And a large labrador. Got all of those too..

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The Natural Philosopher

25 years doesn't sound very long for what must have been a huge outlay

- 50 metre long trenches! I bet it cost an arm and a leg to install. Surely a few fireplaces would have been a bit cheaper. Wood, after all, can be obtained from a sustainable supply.

MM

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MM

Ah, I was wondering whether such a device existed, me being a newbie oil tank owner. At present I stand at the kitchen window with my binoculars and can focus on the little green float in the sight tube which I have also marked off, though in inches. I must say, I am pleasantly surprised at how little the boiler consumes, but I'd still far rather have gas and forget about both the tank and the necessity to have to order refills, both pains in the veritable backside.

Oh, and with gas, if it's chilly, you can just switch the hob on in the kitchen. Far better and quicker (and cheaper) heat boost than those fan heaters.

Give me gas every time.

MM

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MM

Depends where you are. Here all lumber would have to be brought in by road. Wood miles aren't sustainable.

Mary

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Mary Fisher

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