Does anyone know of any crosses that have used Jiminy Cricket as a parent? It's been blooming very nicely for me for a couple of years, even though I don't have a greenhouse and just have it under lights-- and outside over the summer. I'd think they might be interesting if they picked up the fringed lip. I know there have been lots of crosses made with B nodosa as parent.
Or is there some place I can look it up online?
Thanks,
Janet
I don't think the RHS website gives you this info easily. But that's where you'd start on line. According to Orchid Wiz Jimminey Cricket has been used
11 times as a parent. Since its lip is already the result of the cross between nodosa and B digbyana you'd probably have to cross it back onto digbyana in order to get the fringed lip you are looking for. Or go completely weird and cross it onto something like Epi ciliata (or ilense!?), hoping the fringed lip will pass along.Just my 2 cents. I have no idea if the lip is dominant.
K Barrett BTW teh other parents are: B glauca C forbesii Sl Jinn (which I think is a cucullata cross, IIRC) Bc Binosa (bicolor x nodosa) B nodosa C Tripp Johnston Blc Hawaiian Storm L purpurata Blc Chinese Bronze Blc Memoria Helen Brown
Thanks! That's not a very long list. I'd think that if the cross of digbyana and nodosa yielded a fringed lip, that then either the fringed lip is dominant or it sort of blends.
Janet
B digbyana is in the background of a zillion of those big old standard brassos with the big flurffy, (although *not* fringed or heavily whiskered) lips. These grexes go back to the late 1800s. It adds bulk and girth, but the fringe seems hard to hold onto in subsequent generations. There are a few however. When it gets bred back to some of it's big flurffy grandchildren you get some fringing and whiskers. I think the prevailing thought with digbyana over the generations has been that it's lip would be nice but the overall thrown back and curved back petal structure of the rest of the flower took several generations to work out of the offspring and by then the lip frill was gone too. Just a guess.
Brassolaeliocattleya Ports of Paradise 'Emerald Isle' FCC/AOS (Blc. Fortune x B. digbyana) is the famous example of back breeding to species to pick up the lip.
Bc. Mrs. J. Leeman (B. digbyana x C. dowiana) is a cool idea but it just "blended" the cool traits in the F1 generation. This cross or the two parents are usually somewhere in the background of all large brassos. Somebody needs to to do a selfing of Bc. Mrs. J. Leeman to redistribute the colors genes and the fringing genes and maybe bring forward the extravagent traits in both species lips in one plant in the F2 generation. A simple blend misses the point.
Thanks! That's not a very long list. I'd think that if the cross of digbyana and nodosa yielded a fringed lip, that then either the fringed lip is dominant or it sort of blends.
Janet
Al,
Thanks for your response. I'm strictly an amateur, but I like seeing how things work. I made a cross several years ago between a heavily spotted orchid and a "blue" minicatt. All the progeny were pink minicatts, some with spots, most without, but it was fascinating to see the variation in coloring and lip formation. I tried a sib cross, sent the pods off for flasking but the flasking service disappeared, phone no longer in service, etc. My expectation is that there would have been more variety in such a sib cross.
I don't have room for the big catts, but will probably try crossing Jiminy Cricket with a small catt. Some years ago I tried in vain to cross epi cochleata with b nodosa. Never had any pod form. Hope I'll have better luck with this.
Janet
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