Window Replacement

Not aware of a single vinyl replacement window (or any other with sealed unit double or triple pane glass) manufacturer that will stand behind their guarantee if storm windows are installed.

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clare
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Maybe next, you should try harder. A LOT, LOT harder...

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Atila Iskander

Thank you for your input It has been most unhelpful Have a nice day

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Atila Iskander

lifetime warranties on anything end when the manufacturer goes out of businss....

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bob haller

How do storm widows damage the main window? Condensation?

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micky

I don't understand what you mean either. You get drafts inside the house even when the windows are shut? And latched?

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micky

Never mind. Derby said it was heat.

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micky

When you're exposed to direct wind, which brings with it rain, sleet, snow, ice, etc that particular exposed piece of hardware takes literally an extra hard beating over time. Over time, things do get loose and leaky much quicker on the windward than the leeward side. You can actually see the difference with my current windows. I've already had to re-putty the inside windows on the west side twice since we lived here.

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Atila Iskander

heat

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clare

Generally vinyl windows do not have that problem. 20 years on mine now and not an issue at all on either north or south facing side. Only one on the east - no problem there either ant it is 5 years older and an inferior unit.

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clare

Even if I agree with everything you say here (which I think I do), why do you have to always think if someone doesn't do it your way (or agree with your way), they're stupid?

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Doug

False premise It's stupid not to bid on a project because you couldn't get both spouses to sit with you. That's like claiming that you will only negotiate with some corporate entity if all the shareholders are present They don't need to be there Only the person with full authority on a project needs to be there.

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Atila Iskander

No, it's like that in form, to some extent, but it's not like that in reality at all. With a corporation, the board makes decisions. Sometimes their projects are big, and it's well worth the saleman's time to give his presentation 2 or 3 times, or more.

With a husband and wife, not only do both usually have substantial input, often both have a veto. After one of them says yes, then the other one often wants to hear the salesman's pitch directly and ask questions that weren't asked before. A pain in the neck and he's already given a price, so he gives his time for free, the second time. Why is it so hard for both to be present?

IOW, 2 is a far cry from 1000 or more.

In most couples there is no such person.

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micky

On a corporate level, you are correct. On a household level, it is much different. The salesman makes his presentation and one of two things happens very often.

  1. I like it but my husband/wife has to see it first. Can you come back later?
  2. My husband/wife came home and does not want your product. Since we have the 3 day rescission contract, I'm canceling.

This sort of thing happens very frequently on home improvements. The person with full authority is always the one absent when buyer's remorse sets in.

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Ed Pawlowski

Ok. It reminds me about these past financial seminar postcards I get in the mail where it says both husband and wife must attend.

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Doug

I'm not either, but had I said that there is not a single VRW that can be used with storms, somebody would have come up with an example. ;-) That's just how it works around here.

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DerbyDad03

"Doug" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

That has to do with pension funds or similar. So it is logical to require both spouses to be present, since thay both have rights to that pension money. In most states.

In a good marriage, I think both spouses should have a voice in financial matters that affect the whole household.

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Han

Yup And I don't bother patronizing those either

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Atila Iskander

Considering that

1) Most windows do NOT fill the opening completely, and thus require the equivalent of "brick molding" depending on the exterior. 2) Storm windows get attached to the "brick molding" equivalent I fail to see why having a second covering over the window would be a warranty breaker.
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Atila Iskander

You only have 3 days if they showed up uninvited and sold you something. (I think they have to sell you something that very day.)

If you called them, or iiuc did anything that could be considered an invitation, like fill out some card at the state fair (in order to win a dinner at some restaurant), possibly even if it didn't have the contractor's name on it, there is no right to cancel.

This was a compassionate law made for good reasons, and I haven't heard stories that confirm my fear**, but I fear it's caused more harm than good. There's a legal saying that "Hard cases make bad law." That refers to the judicial process and precedent, when a decision is made to remedy a wrong, even though the same logic applied elsewhere would have the opposite effect, and sometimes does because of the respect given to precedent.

**I've heard stories about people who believe it applies when it doesn't, but at most one who lost money because of it.
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micky

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