On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:56:21 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
No. most dealers install an OEM branded rebuilt. Almost impossible to
buy a brand new dealer alternator or starter after about the second
year of production. Most dealers will only install third party parts
if the OEM brand parts are not available, TERRIBLY overpriced, or
having reliability problems. There is always the odd idiot dealer
principal who will buy parts from the jobber to save a buck, not
realizing he is putting all the profit into someoe elses till when he
could be putting it in his own. The same guy who sends his used cars
down the street for a safety check because the corner garage only
cherges him $50 when his own service department charges him $55.
Meanwhile, his mechanics are sitting on their asses, drinking his
coffee while he pays to heat, light. and maintain an empty shop.
I hate exhaust work. Usually I'd just start wrapping fiberglas tape around
them and slather on the polyester resin. Except for a few compounds, epoxy
resin melts when it gets hot. Don't ask me how I know....
I just cut the entire old system off in chunks and put on new
stainless steel. That way I only need to do it ONCE.I did enough
patching/repairing in my years as a professional mechanic -made many a
brass exhaust system out of rust and brazing rods.
At least today's exhaust systems last more than 2 years. The one on my
almost 19 year old truck is original with 324000km on it and still
solid - in the ontario rust belt.
I submit that they are. They've got a lot more money and worry a lot less
about running out or suffering from a bankrupting catastrophic illness.
That's making some serious assumptions about an awfully large group of
people of very varied backgrounds. I don't think it's a sustainable
Amen. They are as different as people who don't have vast wealth.
When I worked the "embassy beat" in DC I met a lot of very wealthy people
and they're all over the map. Some display their wealth ostentatiously and
others don't even tip at restaurants. And there's everything in between
those two extremes.
Though I never met him, Picasso was a pro at cheapskating because he paid
everything by check knowing that few people would cash them but would save
them instead because they would eventually become valuable collector's
What I can't believe now is how determined I was when I first started out in
my teens to remove and save all the parts as if I were working for CSI.
Then I found out what cut off wheels were for . . .
I eventually learned that any piece of the exhaust that looked good enough
to re-use was really working a giant con and was usually rusted to paper
thin metal inside where you couldn't yet see it. Until it blew out from
being the weakest link in an otherwise new chain of exhaust parts.
The Mark X had resonators, silencers, mufflers and something else I've
forgotten about that all needed replacing to pass inspection. Way, way too
much stuff and connector pipes and clamps and hangers. JC Whitney to the
Nowadays you can probably get parts from England as easily as from the US
but back then finding parts for foreign cars was a serious quest.
All of which makes me glad I got that out of my system and drive reliable
cars now. Not as tolerant of adventure on the highway anymore, I guess.
But I did meet a lot of nice people breaking down here and there. That was
long before cell phones when you had to knock on someone's door and ask if
you could call AAA.
I had a Lincoln that was about the same. Nature abhors a vacuum and the
Lincoln engineers filled any available space with some sort of exhaust
plumbing. I was going to do it right but a trip to the parts store was a jaw
Nice car but most they were big on vacuum controls and that turned into the
mightmare on elm street as the car got older, pus all the electric stuff
that more or less worked.
Yeah, especially those damn Whitworth fasteners. I once did a rebuild on an
Alfa Romeo Gulietta and if you think the Brits were bad. Only car I ever
worked on that had wet sleeves. No oversized pistons; you replaced them all
as a matched set. Another jaw dropper.
What's depressing is all those cool, fast sportscars from the '50s and '60s
would have their asses whipped by a generic Honda roght off the showroom
Back in the late seventies we rallyed a Renault R12. 1300cc wet
sleave motor. Complete rebuild kit including gaskets, bearings, seals,
pistons and sleaves was under $100.
Ir was cheaper than having a mini block bored and fitting oversized
pistons by over 20% - and included all new bearings and seals!!!
Alfas ran more like $100 a cylinder... Other than a rental Alliance, I
never had anything to do with French cars. I looked at a Citroen DS once but
the nagging voice in my head kept saying "What could possibly go wrong with
this engineering marvel?" I wouldn't mind having a Traction Avant, though.
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