I think you just answered your own question. Any more amerage isn't going
to fit inside a recepticle that is shared with mains voltage. Maybe some
exist that are only USB outlets.
Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
But there is no way to determine if it actually is a name
brand or just someone lying about the brand, a fake.
With a microscopic subset like Apple, you can
only ever by stuff from an Apple place of worship,
but plenty of us don't even have that option and
it isnt available with most stuff anyway.
But plenty lie about the brand name.
And with something like the power outlets he is talking
about its easy enough to buy just one of what looks like
a branded product, with a UL rating and check that it
does deliver what it claims to and break it open and
check that its not a fake too. Not a shred of rocket
science required at all. But you do need to know
more about the basics than you do.
The quest is for two 2.1 Amp ports, which will handle two
iPads at the same time.
I can only find one UL-approved receptacle that does that.
I was just hoping that there would be more out there than
the one I found.
Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Rod Speed wrote, on Fri, 09 Jan 2015 05:11:32 +1100:
I don't claim to be an expert on anything, but, I doubt
there is a real danger of fake 120VAC receptacles being
sold by reputable firms (as the ones I outlined were), and
then being put in homes all across the USA every day by
electricians and homeowners alike.
Sure, I know about the made-up scare by Apple regarding
the fake chargers - and I know all about the Apple audience
eating it up like hotcakes.
IMHO, that fake Apple charger issue was purposefully blown
vastly out of proportion, by Apple Marketing (which is the best
there is, after BMW Marketing) after the death of that Asian
lady using the phone in China with a white charger block.
Even if fake white charger blocks were a real threat,
to imply that the worldwide market for fake white charger blocks
is even remotely similar to the USA-only market for 120VAC wall
outlets, is preposterous (and barely worth the text required
To summarize, I highly doubt fake UL-approved USA receptacles
is a real problem. It's a great made-up scare-tactic problem,
which probably works great on Apple customers, but I'd personally
worry more about falling down the stairs while reading text on
my iPhone than I would about fake UL-approved wall outlets.
I don't know who you are, but, I have to wonder if you
realize that the world-wide market for white apple
looking stuff is not even remotely similar to that of
UL-approved USA 120VAC electrical outlets.
Nonetheless, the question remains whether anyone can find
a BETTER wall outlet than the one I found, where better
is defined as having at least two full-power ports, and
where full-power merely means two iPads or similar (usually
that's 2.1 Amps per port simultaneously).
On Thursday, January 8, 2015 at 3:33:53 PM UTC-5, Danny D. wrote:
To further shoot holes in that argument, if you buy a Leviton (name brand)
product at HomeDepot (name brand store), the chance that it's counterfit
is virtually zero. The bizarre argument he's making is that because
name brands can be counterfitted, it's pointless to buy a name brand anything.
Seems to me buying a name brand product through a reputable channel is
the best practical way to be sure you're not buying some defective knock
off. What's his solution? Buy some from wherever and send them out for
analysis? A lot of these kinds of products you couldn't even take them
apart to see what's inside without destroying them, and even then unless
you're a tech expert you still wouldn't know what you have.
Don Wiss wrote, on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:19:56 -0500:
What I'm looking for is to charge two tablets at the same time,
and the only spec I know of for tablets is the 2.1 Amp spec.
So that means two times 2.1 Amps which is a tad over 20 Watts.
Clearly that exists, and fits inside a normal USA outlet box.
In fact, I had googled before posting, and only found one wall
outlet that output 20 Watts that fit in a normal electrical box,
so, my question was simply whether I had found the only one out
there, or, if I missed a few (since I'm not an electrician or
even well versed in this stuff).
Apparently, based on the responses so far, there is only one
120VAC/20W USB wall receptacle out there, so, I'll try to find
a few of those to put in.
I was just hoping someone out there knew more than I did, since
I admit I don't know much about this stuff.
bob_villa wrote, on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:03:47 -0800:
The only problem with Hubbell is that they apparently misrepresent
the truth (according to what I can find out on the net about this
It's not really that they lie, they just don't tell you what you
need to know, so you're forced to make the calculations based on
the input wattage, which isn't even in and of itself enough to
justify the assumption of both ports being 3 amps.
So, the only conclusion you can make, based on the evidence
we have, is that the Hubbell is the WORST of the three outlets
that I found.
Bear in mind, the goal was to find an equivalent (or better) outlet
to the BEST that I had found by googling.
So far, we've failed.
I don't know the answer, but USB is certainly here for the
next five years, so, for the bedroom and office, where you
are very likely to plug in a USB-powered device, it makes
economic sense (at least to me), to pop in a 2-port 20-Watt
outlet in key areas.
Besides, the outlet actually costs (slightly) less than a
similar spec'd external charger, so, if you need a charger,
and it's for a static location, I don't see the advantage
of the wall wort style charger over the receptacle style.
I guess nobody knows of a better one than the one I found
(which is surprising), so, I'll get the 20 Watt outlet that
I had found by googling. They don't seem to sell it at the
box stores though, so, I may have to order online.
Sorry if I wasn't clear in the original question.
The goal is 2.1 Amps out of each 5V port at the same time.
That's about 10 Watts per port, for a total of about 20 Watts.
I can only find one receptacle that does that.
There must be more.
I was just asking if anyone here knew of others.
bob_villa wrote, on Thu, 08 Jan 2015 12:50:40 -0800:
That's not a bad find, as it contains 4 "smart" USB ports,
two of which are useful for tablets.
However, I had already gone to Frys to see what they had,
which included similar power strips (albeit not as nice nor
as inexpensive as the one you found).
So, as a power strip, your suggestion is nice in that it
contains two useful ports (for tablets) and it has auto
sense, if that matters.
usb type a/b connectors will be replaced by the new reversible usb type
c connector long before 5 years, and not just because it's reversible.
it offers many other benefits, such as supporting up to 100w power and
10gig speeds. a laptop would be able to charge off usb, much like a
phone does now.
it's a lot easier to change a charger as technology changes than it is
a wall outlet, as well as carry it with you while traveling.
that's why you'll see a *lot* more chargers for sale and not very many
wall outlet chargers.
the wall outlet chargers make sense in industrial settings, such as
airports, hotels, schools, etc.
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