It's spring and time to get the water hoses set up. My goal is not to
have to replace everything every year.
I've had good luck so far with the Vigoro manifolds with the individual
shutoff valves. So I bought a Vigoro solid brass nozzle (the kind you
twist that goes from off, to wide to narrow). No control over amount,
but I think dependable. All the other nozzles I've had develop some kind
of a problem.
I've wanted to put in the quick connects so I bought a package from HF.
They leak, a lot. I also note that there are quick disconnects that also
shut off, these don't.
I'm trying a Flexon licensed (made in US) water hose. It's only a 25
footer 1/2", but I like it a lot so far. $13 from the Borg. Guaranteed
for life and drinking water safe.
One of the HD hoses from last year is swelling at all the old kinks
and has hit the trash. The ancient rubber is still good.
What isn't junk and where do you buy it?
Where do oyu live? My hoses in SoCal last for years (more than 10
If you a garden hose mini ball valve ahead of your nozzle, that will
give you flow control.
Ditto on Bob F's comment..... I used Nelson's, Mennor's and Gilmour
all worked great, lasted a LONG time...... I just point Ace knockoff
replacement rubber seals ~$1 ea (pks of three!?).
The major suppliers (with shipping) the seals were like $3 ea.
The stuff at HF mostly sucks (HD is barely better)...... why waste
your time with HF?
OT HomeDepot sells some really cool looking solidly machined hose
repair fittings (Vigoro for HD), they even come with a nice SS hose
The look great until you look closer..... they are NOT brass but gold
anodized aluminum. :(
They are sold a mid-range / premium price and are clearly meant to
deceive the buyer.
It's popular in this group! I was there picking up paint stripping
discs. $7. As good if not a little thicker than the name brands
elsewhere for $10 and up.
The HF connectors are beautifully machined brass. It looks like it seals
on the rubber hose gasket, or rather doesn't.
Figures. I'll have to look closer. My problem, which is common
particularly in HDs home town, is that there is always one close. Close
enough I can drive home with stuff that shouldn't be loaded in a car.
Everything there seems to be sold on profit margin and not quality. Not
that there isn't good stuff there, but you have to wade through the
junk. And you may not get there.
seem to think. <<<<<
Too bad...you're still wrong & misinformed.
The performance of an alloy is determined not only by the constituents
but on the percentages (& relative % as well) of each.
So by your assertion all concrete mixes must be the same?
They must be..... since they have the same materials; cement, sand,
gravel & water
From that last statement it is clear that you have never owned a boat,
never owned a really old home and are simply making an ass-ertion out
Remember the days when you could disparage any polymer by simply
saying, "Yabbut, it's plastic!" and that'd be the death knell for that
item in most people's minds. That's what you're attempting to do with
the pot metal jibe. Unfortunately for your ass-ertion, brass, and
it's at times indistinguishable cousin bronze, are simply wonder
I find it curious that you have so little faith in the war machines of
every fecking country on Earth. When war time hits, brass is what's
needed. That held in the 16th century and it still holds true today.
Pretty amazing for pot metal, eh?
While we're on the historical/hysterical version of metallurgy let's
take a little quiz. Remember the Bronze Age and how the Iron Age came
after it? Why do you think that was? Was iron superior to bronze for
Yes. It is stronger, much stronger and harder. Iron, in it's steel form
that is, cuts through brass. The civilizations that had "iron" weapons
defeated those with brass.
Iron smelting came late, and then the hardening to near steel required
technical advances and innovations.
I disagree not one bit about the usefulness of brass in warfare and
That is simply not so.
Addressing the hardness issue:
Interesting that, about the hardness of hammered bronze. It's safe to
assume that the Bronze Age people had hammers, right?
Addressing the availability and reason for the switchover:
This thread gives a reasonable overview with most points of view
represented, and it settles down to what is generally accepted.
Difficulties and expense in obtaining raw materials was the main
reason for the transition from bronze to iron, not the inherent
superiority of a slightly harder metal that was much more problematic
to work, albeit more abundant.
Which means that the iron they did use was not clearly superior, only
marginally so in certain attributes. The ability to rapidly produce
weapons has always been a crucial capability in the time of war.
Casting and hammering bronze was far easier and quicker than dealing
with iron until the later technological advances you mention were
The Iron Age was not called the Steel Age because they didn't have
steel. What you're suggesting is that since a culture had charcoal
(carbon) they had carbon fiber.
over & out?
I guess that means you're done with the shovel.
"In 25 years, the only thing I remember that anyone ever asked us to
machine out of brass, were triple beam balance weights. "
I guess that's all the data we need....brass is crap, just like "pot
Don't confuse yourself with the facts...... we can tell you've made up
btw you're confusing minor surface oxidation with destructive levels
It's not a matter of "ruffling feathers", it's about disseminating
wrong & misleading information.
Sad to imagine but there are probably people in your offline world who
actually think you know of what you speak...... :(
esoteric about it. It's just cheap pot metal. <<<<
Surely you're joking or misinformed.
Machined brass (not formed brass tube) is one of the best materials &
manufacturing methods for garden hose fittings.
I have re-usable brass hose ends that are over 30 years old,
the aluminum ones from HD would be lucky to last 5 in the same service
In this application anodized aluminum is a joke and a ripoff.
I've got red brass sprinkler valves that are nearly 50 years old.....a
few are on their second actuator replacement.
btw Brass is not "pot metal"; "pot metal" typically refers to alloys
that are predominately zinc; low melting temp, great for die cast
speaking of hose fittings, i have some of those quick connect plugs that
I got at home depot.
one of the hose connections started leaking and I found that one of the
qc plug was pitted and had white deposit embeded near the entrance. can
anything be done about that?
from what I can tell of the comments, the plugs I have isn't brass, is
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