It seems that my current maytag washer broke the clutch, that's very
hard to get to. The motor and the tub pulley spin, but the tub does
not engage. There were also some bad noises coming from there, as
though a piece of metal was caught between some gears. These noises
stopped, eventually, with no improvement.
It is not the first time when this washer breaks and I have just about
I would like to buy a new washer that is built honestly, like Miller
welders or Cummins engines, and not like cost engineered crap that
does not last and is impossible to fix.
Such washers are, apparently, made, at least for commercial
laundromats. (which would not fit our room) Is there a consumer
version of that? Where plastic and potmetal is not used for major
parts, and things are built to last "like they used to".
I do not mind paying top dollar for such a thing if it exists.
Many apartment buildings have Maytag commercial washers and dryers that
are the same size as the "consumer" ones-- they're the same ones I've
seen in laundromats, so I'm not sure why you think they wouldn't fit.
My landlord fixes them himself, and he says the insides are modular and
easy to work on. I don't know where he buys them, but there must be
companies that sell them to laundromats etc. Try the yellow pages.
Or get friendly with your local laundromat owner and ask him where he
The ones in my building do malfunction occasionally but they're pretty old
and beat up. The newer ones at the laundromat seem to work well.
Good idea, will do.
I looked at washing machines on the Web, it looks like the price
depends on amount of "features" and LCD screen and software. No
washing machine that I saw advertises "better built parts" or some
To all people who say "I have a 20 year old XXX brand washer, and it
still works fine": I think that things have changed since when you
bought your favorite washer, and manufacturers learned to make cheap,
bad products that would just last beyond the warranty period.
I have no doubt that these companies used to make good products. Then
what often happens is that some asshole CEO comes on board, cheapens
everything, enjoys a few years of great "profits" and bonuses, and
then moves on to another company.
This is what all business colleges and Wall Street are teaching the
managers of today - plan for yourself, today. Let the rest of all the
suckers care about their kids lives in the future. Managers are being
told to manage for today only.
Partly, I think that the other responsible parties are mutual funds,
and other institutions, that hold stock and only care about short term
profits, and consumers, who do not make an effort to learn what is and
what is not a good product.
This is WHO is doing the telling when I say managers are being told to
manage for today. This unabashed greed is what is bringing down the USA.
I read recently where company officials in an eastern US state are
trying to put steps in place so stockholders/shareholders of said
company will have radically reduced control of the hiring/firing of
upper level officials - extremely dangerous in my view. Rape & pillage a
company, make ridiculous monies, ruin an organization, retire in wealth
with no accountability. As a blue collar worker that's all I hear about
from my managers - employees must have MORE accountability - yet THEY
want to escape it at their level. Total & absolute hypocrisy.
How many of those are actually separate manufacturers, and how many are
just "badge engineered" versions of the same thing?
Interesting-- they seem to last a long time, under heavy use (maybe I go
to the wrong laundromats, but I've only ever seen the top loading ones,
until very recently).
One thing people are forgetting is that if you have a 30 year old
washer that still works fine, that doesn't mean they're still making
that level of quality 30 years later.
The brands mentioned are for the most part commerical laundry
equipment. All except the SpeedQueen-Hubshe are pretty much different
machines. Except for a typical square cabinet model that is produced
and rebadged between SpeedQueen, Hubshe and Unimac. Other than this
model most models produced by these mentioned before are all different
under the hood.
The topload models in the laundry-mats only appear to last longer. But
note there are some brand on the market for the home that would never
make it more than a year or so in a laundry. GE, Whirlpool, Speedqueen
and Maytag are the only topload machines I know of that appear in a
laundry-mat, in my humble opinion, the Maytag and Speedqueen are the
best of the bunch and tend to last about 5 to 9 years before being worn
out. That figure seems to be getting closer to 5 years anymore though.
You might notice that I mentioned my home washer was a 35 year washer,
yep, the difference is great in todays models and those of yesteryear,
hence the reason I just keep on repairing the old gal until I can't no
Another thing, I might offer to someone thinking about buying a
commerical type of washer. Keep in mind, it will need to be serviced
one day. Make darn sure there will be someone around to do it. You will
find most appliance repair guys won't even bother to look at a
commerical unit for one reason or another.
You can save water and energy by going with a front-load consumer model. I
don't know how reliable they are. As far as consumer vs. commercial, do the
math, the annual cost of ownership on a regular washing machine is pretty
front loaders are crap.
buy a bog standard top loader from a reputable name and you should
have little problem.
I overloaded ours and stripped the agitator. $60 bought a replacement
one which has given no problems since.
FWIW- we have a two year old GE with mechanical controls (no
electrocrap) and one of my kids wayyyy overloaded it to the point
water was sloshing out over the tub. I took the front service panel
off (30 second job) to see if anything important got drenched and was
surprised to see that the machine was engineered with just this
scenario in mind. Another surprise was that the pump is not driven by
the main motor, but is a self-contained unit with it's own small
motor- probably less $$ to operate. The machine looks to be easy to
work on- all the service items are easy to reach or replace without
tearing the thing to pieces (which might explain why GE sold it with a
generous in-home warranty).
Don't sell the consumer grade stuff short- there are some good
products out there.
=====================/rant mode on
Why should I have to keep buying the same things over and over?
Washing Machines, Cars, Computers, etc.
Just upgraded the operating system on my main computer so I could
run a 250 gig USB drive and now half of my software and
peripherials such as the scanner won't work -- contact the
manufacturer and get the old so sorry no support for old machine
on new O/S but we give discount on new scanner.
Americans are being played for suckers. Reread "the Waste
makers" by Packard" see
(Amazon.com product link shortened)(3155
also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
/ran mode off
There is something to be said for government by a great aristocracy
which has furnished leaders to the nation in peace and war for generations;
even a democrat like myself must admit this.
But there is absolutely nothing to be said for government by a plutocracy,
for government by men very powerful in certain lines and gifted with the "money
but with ideals which in their essence are merely those of so many glorified
Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919), U.S. Republican (later Progressive) politician,
president. Letter, 15 Nov. 1913.
On Sat, 06 May 2006 17:04:35 -0500, F George McDuffee
Last time I bought a computer was in 1995.
Since then, I simply kept upgrading it. The only thing left from the
old computer is the floppy drive.
By the way, linux is much better about supporting legacy hardware.
"Last time I bought a computer was in 1995.
Since then, I simply kept upgrading it. The only thing left from the
old computer is the floppy drive. "
Seriously? I have had to buy new cases and power supplies to keep up with
the new motherboard and CPU specs.
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