Harry, please read my recent reply, then go back and re-read the two
messages...if you care to that is. I'm sure you will ascertain I am
the furthest thing from a ditz! :-) However should you not, that's
okay too Jesus loves you and I do too God bless! Now I'm off to take a
nice extremely long extra hot shower, with water heated by my lowly
5gal jug of diesel! ;-)
If you have a car you know how much it costs to operate. Just consider
how much it costs to operate a liquid fuels delivery truck.
It is easy to think that the local oil company is simply putting all of
the money they charge in their pocket. So you say to yourself "I ordered
100 gallons so they just made $400". Reality is they have to purchase
the fuel for not much less than they are selling it to you and equipment
such as the trucks and they pay someone and work on a small percentage
to cover those costs.
Call your fuel oil company and see if they will fill 5 gallon cans at
their facility. If yes, go buy some 5 gallon cans at the hardware store
and do your own deliveries at your cost. They may even give you a
discount because they don't have to pay all the overhead for their
I use around 4-5 gallons a day for my winter heating depending upon the
outside temperature here in NY, so with 20 gallons, I'll have to make
the trip at least once a week. Don't forget to add in the cost for your
gasoline to make the round trip to the fuel oil company.
That is a bad idea...
There is a limit as to how much fuel/flammables you can carry around
in your car without requiring a special permit/tank/inspections and
CDL with hazardous cargo endorsement...
No, they don't...
Exigent circumstances don't apply in this situation...
Clearly the OP can not afford her opulent living situation given her
current financial reality and needs to apply for housing assistance...
I would not want to be caught carting around too much fuel oil in
the present homeland security circumstances...
A homeowners inability to properly budget for their household
or live within their means so that home heating oil can be
delivered by properly trained and licensed CDL drivers with
hazardous materials endorsements does not nullify all of the
federal and state laws regulating the transportation and storage
of flammable liquids...
Wrote you a reply but alas, all was lost! Not sure why but was too
lengthy to write again...the basic message was that I'm in no hole,
but running out of oil on rent week necessitates the use of diesel
from time to time. And lastly the distaste for greedy oil companies
that impose 100 gal minimums! Why? Why not let me throw in $80 worth
(that'd be around 20gals) on a weekly or bi-weekly basis? Seriously
Because unlike the gas station where you
buy diesel they have to send a truck out to
you to deliver those 20 gallons. You may
think they are greedy oil companies, but
around here and in my experience, the
companies making home delivery of oil
are just small, local businessmen. Just
like the station that pumps gas, their
markup isn't much at all. I don't think
a 100 gallon minimum is at all unreasonable.
And don't know what kind of oil burner/boiler
you have but 20 gallons would not last
long in any house I've owned. I've also seen
the most problems with clogged nozzles
in oil burners from situations where people
regularly let the tank get empty or close to it.
You'd be amazed at how little profit they make on a hundred gallon delivery.
Some want 150 gallons now. The driver's time to fill 200 gallons is not
much more than pumping only 20 gallons, so the cost of the truck, insurance,
wear on tires, labor, is about the same. The overhead goes up 10X with the
20 gallon delivery you want. How much of a premium would you be willing to
pay for that service?
It is up to you to get some oil before the rent is due. Get on a 10 month
budget plan and automatic delivery and stop worrying. Pay with a credit
card and you have a month to pay the bill.
Seems like you are blaming others for your problem. You know you'll need
oil so start now. Get a delivery this week, top it off before the really
cold weather starts to suck it down. Another alternative is to move to a
place with lower rent. Maybe a better insulated place with lower bills for
Why is everybody taking this post to such an extreme? I lost my
husband in Iraq a year ago okay I posted this today to get some
insight on why 100 gals. all the time and got some great answers..then
a glitch posted one of my replies twice in error...so one idiot says
it must be my budgeting? Wth? I filled the tank with oil not too long
ago and it just so happened to run out on a bad week i.e. rent, school
clothes for my 14,12, and 3 year old children, so this week diesel
won! Thats all I was saying!
NO, that is not _all_ you were saying. You were complaining (more
than twice btw) that companies should deliver 5 or 10 gal oil for
free. That is even _after_ it was explained to you (more than twice
Well, because despite your circumstances you can still do things
differently to avoid getting into that "bad week" situation.
What I don't understand is, if you don't have enough money for oil on
rent week, how do you have enough money for oil any other week?
Seriously, consider moving. Oil is one of the most expensive ways to
heat. You can often find apartment complexes that have central heating
plants and provide heat and hot water as part of the monthly rent.
It's "do what you gotta do to survive." If one of the things you have
to do is move, you have to be willing to do it. This attitude people
have of living life on their terms is what's turning us into a welfare
Unfortunately "Andrea" can't wrap her head around the idea that the
local oil company actually has to go and buy the product they are
delivering to her for not much less than they are selling it to her.
Good friend has a liquid fuels business. The typical "tankwagon"
truck costs $350,000. Tires are $400/each. There are expensive recurring
inspections for tank integrity. Then there is really expensive mandatory
hazardous cargo insurance for spills/accidents. Add in the cost of labor
and the fuel to run a truck that gets 6 MPG and you wonder how they can
even do 100 gallon minimum deliveries.
Lets say you bake cupcakes for extra income. You need to buy supplies
etc to do it. So you only keep a small portion of the actual selling
price of the cupcake. Lets say you will deliver 100 cupcakes for $100.
So a customer of yours says "we would really like to have more cupcakes
but didn't budget for it, so we want you you to deliver 10 cupcakes for
$10". Could you do it? Would it make any economic sense to burn the same
amount of fuel in your car and use the same of time to deliver 10?
Remember just like the heating oil company you actually are keeping only
a small portion of the selling price since you have to pay for supplies
and use your vehicle to deliver the product.
I have a budget plan with my fuel oil company.
I pay a fixed monthly payment throughout the whole year based upon the
amount of fuel oil used in the past plus the anticipated cost per gallon
although I only use the oil burner in the winter. The plan is
reevaluated at the end of the 1 year plan period. Any overage payment is
credited to my account for the next year.
For me, at least, this is better than having to shell out $1,000 or more
without the plan at the time of delivery. The delivery is automatic,
starting in late autumn and may be topped off a couple more times during
the winter months by any amount, whether or not we are home.
If this would be better for you, you may check for this kind of plan
with your current fuel oil company or find another that does.
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