I have read or seen on TV that one should use fire extinguishers
that have a hose attached to the outlet because they are easier to
aim. My brother said that a safety expert at his workplace says
that one should not use a fire extinguisher larger than a 1A 10BC
for home use because larger ones would blow the fire (or burning
The only fire extinguishers that have hoses seem to be 3A 40BC or
larger. Which type should we get? Thank you in advance for all
Whenever I hear or think of the song "Great green gobs of greasy
grimey gopher guts" I imagine my cat saying; "That sounds REALLY,
REALLY good. I'll have some of that!"
I think your brother's "expert" needs some training in how to properly
use a fire extiguisher. Those small extinguishers may be enough to
help you get out of a burning building if you are lucky. Usually, the
little extinguishers run out of juice before you might prefer. I would
go for the largest capacity you can easily handle. You could also opt
for a large one and a small one mounted side by side.
I have no idea how size relates to use, but if one of the little ABC
extinguishers doesn't do the
trick, it seems, then I best get out and wait for the FD.
One of the small ones did the trick when a small child found a lighter,
lit a piece of paper, and
dropped it.......the burning paper caught the drape on fire, and that is
when adult discovered it.
A few seconds later and it would have been a situation of "get out now".
Throughout school and employment, I've attended safety sessions which
have included how to
use an extinguisher. Awfully valuable info, IMO. You don't aim INTO
burning liquid because
you want to avoid splashing it. You aim across the top so's to kill the
O2 supply at the surface.
Just hope that you aren't in a situation where that little bitty
1A10BC fire extinguisher isn't up to the job of getting you out of
there and saving your life. I'm only required to have 2 small fire
extinguishers on my sailboat. I have 3 bigger ones. One at each end of
the boat and one near the center, 4A60BC.
It was already time to "get out now". Everyone should have gotten out
FIRST before making any judgement about whether to fight it yourself.
You are correct that it is often a matter of seconds between oops, and
Yes, being in the bow of a sailboat when the center goes would be
I don't recall, but I think it was "dial 911, grab extinguisher, wake
the rest of the family". This was
a four year-old who had wakened to get a snack. He tried to put out the
paper, but got scared
and crawled in bed with mom and dad.
Fire department followed up and gave him some more instruction.
As to the mention of a pan of grease burning, it is better to put a lid
on it if possible. It would be shooting
gobs of smoke and grease into the air, which can flash over.
Which brings up a point that has been missed so far. If you are going to fight
a fire with an extinguisher, do it with your back to the door and monitor your
escape route. Things can go sour in seconds.
Keep your fire extinguishers near an exit, so you won't have to go deeper into
the building to get one. You might also keep some sticks and a bag of
marshmallows there, so you'll have something to do while waiting for the fire
I have several small ABC Kiddie fire extinguishers. Most are mounted
near an exterior door. I have one in the kitchen, basement shop,
garage, and truck. The pressure dial shows the extinguisher has
pressure and should be periodically inspected. An open box of
baking soda near the stove is very effective for grease fires. The
thing to keep in mind is to have the extinguishers ready and easily
accessible. Hopefully, you won't ever have to use one.
Here's another good tip: Every month or so, take each extinguisher off its
bracket and shake it vigorously until you can hear the powder moving inside. If
they hand for long periods, the gauge will still say they are good, but the
powder will haved settled itself into a solid lump and the extinguisher will not
Trump Tower is stocked with dry powder extinguishers?
I don't have a link. This is something that I've known for many years, and I've
heard repeated many times. Maybe the website for Kidde or some other major
manufacturer mentions it.
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:24:39 GMT, email@example.com wrote:
Not stocked full, but they must have some. Why pull a hose pipe fire
hose for a trash can fire :-)) I suppose a roaring trash can fire will
set the sprinkler off.
I did find mention of shaking on San Bernardino FD, CA site. The
first I read about it, except your mention of it.
This shaking, as part of the maintenance is not mentioned on my units.
It gives other things to check for, but not mention of shaking the
fire extinguisher. They ought to fix that!
The old soda acids, you had to turn em upside down to operate. Some folks
don't know the new way. Turn upside down, and the dip tube (now at the top)
draws off the pressure.
Now days, extinguishers are used with handles and nozzles at the top.
It takes a lot longer then a month for the chemical to compact to a non
flowing state. Follow the instructions on the label that contains the
listing mark. You only need to take it off of the hook once every six
months. You then simply invert it and wait for the powder to fall
loosely to the top of the cylinder. You can feel the powder drop. Do
not pound or shake! If the powder doesn't fall loose on it's own the
extinguisher should be serviced or replaced. Turn the extinguisher
right side up and put it back on the bracket.
Tom Horne, Firefighter
Well we aren\'t no thin blue heroes but we aren\'t no blackguards to.
I'm saying that the powder will not cake in that short a time unless
there is something wrong with it. Some examples of the something wrong
are moisture in the cylinder, mixing of incompatible powders, or over
charging of the unit with too much chemical.
Shaking the extinguisher seems to make sense at the intuitive level but
it is not, in fact, best practice. By shaking the extinguisher you may
break up the caking into lumps that will plug the nozzle orifice during
use preventing the extinguisher from discharging at the point when you
need it most.
By doing as I've described you have an opportunity to detect a problem
with the extinguisher prior to a need arising. If you shake or bang the
extinguisher around you are more likely to conceal a defect then you are
to clear one.
I base this on three years of work as a fire extinguisher technician in
California were the fire code requires that all extinguishers be torn
down annually instead of at the National Fire Protection Association
recommended interval of six years. During that time I found many
extinguishers that had been rendered inoperative by an incompetent
service technician's work the previous year but I never found one
inoperative due to chemical caking except were the extinguisher had been
improperly charged with damp air rather then dry nitrogen and when
incompatible chemicals had been mixed. I serviced literally several
thousand extinguishers during that period. I have been involved in the
fire and rescue service in many capacities since that time. I've
personally inspected hundreds of fire extinguishers using the method
I've suggested. I've found two, that I can recall, were the powder
would not fall of it's own weight and both were in need of servicing. I
only did the follow up work on one of them and found that the
extinguisher had been improperly charged with incompatible chemicals.
On the other one the follow up was done by the Fire Marshall's office
because it involved a day care center. I never heard what the cause of
that one needing service was. I do know that during subsequent company
in service inspections of that premise that extinguisher behaved as it
should have with the powder falling loose of it's own weight.
It's just a suggestion sir. Do it however you like but you won't find
one manufacturers recommendation or one set of "labeled" maintenance
instructions that directs the shaking or striking of the extinguisher.
Well we aren\'t no thin blue heroes but we aren\'t no blackguards to.
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