Long story short, I live in a condo building on the first floor. The
backyard in this condo building is deeded to me but I currently do not
have direct access from my unit to the yard - I have to walk through a
common basement to get to it. I am in the process of getting building
permits to turn one my large bedroom windows into a door and build a
small deck and stairs so I can walk straight out of my bedroom to the
I have friends who have offered to build the deck part of it (they
have done this sort of thing before) but have no experience taking out
windows and putting in doors. The window is just large enough that it
doesn't need to be expanded to accomodate a door, but I will need a
professional to do it. The door will open to the outside, toward the
What I am wondering is, will it make any difference which part gets
built first? Should I have the window turned into a door first before
attempting to build the deck part?
Thanks in advance for your advice.
On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:45:03 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Cut the door and finish it first. If you really think you will forget
and fall in the hole, put in a temporary set of steps.
It is easier to make the deck match the door (right heaigt) than to
make the door match the deck. It is also easier to get the door cut
and threshold set without the deck there.
On Oct 22, 12:30 am, email@example.com wrote:
- It is easier to make the deck match the door (right heaigt) than to
make the door match the deck.
If you can't determine the correct height of the deck before you
install the door, you shouldn't be attempting this project.
- It is also easier to get the door cut and threshold set without the
Why would it be easier to be restricted to working on one side of the
opening than to be able to work from both sides?
In addition, since the deck should be lower than the threshold to
account for rain, snow, leaves, etc. why would the deck make it harder
to cut the door and set the threshold?
Because standing and working at knee-to-waist height is easier than
working on your hands and knees at floor level, maybe? You put the
deck in first and you're restricted to crawling around on a hard,
rough deck surface to do the outside portion of the work. If this is
typical construction, the first floor is 2-3' above ground level.
On 22 Oct, 08:31, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
At best, I'll grant you a 50-50 split. No deck makes the top of the
door/window 2 - 3 higher than it would otherwise be, assuming the
first floor is 2-3' above ground level. This would probably require
the use of a ladder that would not be required if the deck was already
there. On the other hand, the OP simply said "stairs" but didn't give
us a height, so we're both making assumptions.
In any case, 2 feet or 10, I would rather (and did) have a platform to
work of off. More time is spent up-right when removing a window and
installing a door than "crawling around on a hard, rough deck
On Oct 21, 11:45 pm, email@example.com wrote:
I had a similiar situation except it was 2 double hung windows, side
by side, about 6' off the backyard. I could see the yard, but either
had to go out the front door and around the house or down the basement
steps (which also ended at the front of the house) and then through
the basement to get to the yard.
I built the deck first, 6' off the ground and then cut out the windows
and installed a sliding glass door. It was so much easier to work on
the door from both sides than to deal with a 6' drop outside the
opening. I finished the siding and completed the door installation and
then went back and finished the deck railings and stairs.
On 29 Oct, 17:42, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You're the second person to suggest that matching the deck to the door
is easier and I just don't get that.
As part of planning the project, you should be able to determine
exactly where the deck should be in relation to the door whether the
door is there or not. It's merely a matter of measuring correctly.
Then, once the deck is in place, you'll have a platform on both sides
to make the installation of the door much easier.
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