Yeah, the Trane is a great furnace until the motor goes out. I was
quoted $1000 plus labor to replace the motor. That's One Thousand
Dollars! Yow, that hurts. The disappointing thing is the motor
probably failed about 3 or 4 years ago... when it was still under
warranty. But we didn't notice that is was no longer capable of
anything but the low speed given the mild climate in Oregon. Now that
the motor works properly we can see that it hasn't been this way in
years. It was installed 7 years ago so no luck on the warranty. The
good new is that the replacement motor is guaranteed for a whole
year... One Whole Year! Wow.
Nothing Runs like a Trane wreck.
I wish I had done the due diligence seven years ago. There would
certainly not be a Trane in my basement today had I done so.
Live and learn.
On Oct 31, 8:30 am, http://www.thehvacmedic.com/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl
The motors were redesigned a few years ago so they now last alot
longer, if you never need more than low speed , you were probably
oversized. The 10 yr warranty option should always be taken with vsdc
motor. Depending on your Kwh cost over the past years you likely
already have saved alot of the replacement cost on the motor from
electric savings, my payback on vsdc is maybe 6 years. You might
benefit from having a surge protector on your furnace and home, there
are alot of electronics in your furnace.
I looked at the electricity cost savings when selecting my Heil 2 stage
furnace in 2006, and the payback was just not there to justify a variable
speed DC motor on the much more expensive model. The slower blower speed on
the 2 stage Heil draws about the same current as the slowest speed on the VS
DC model, and neither runs at the higher speeds much / most of the time
I felt the extra electronics and extra cost were liabilities, and went with
the 2 speed with an AC blower motor which switches taps when the higher
burner output is called for. This seems like a much better value and fewer
problems, in my opinion.
Perhaps the Trane has a different break-even / payback situation than the
Heil, but I doubt it.
Incidentally, I live in a part of the country where electricity cost is very
high, so my payback on a VSDC motor would have come quickly if in fact there
truly were a savings when the motors are compared at their slowest speed of
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:57:38 -0700, " firstname.lastname@example.org"
I have seen both in exactly the same machine and same house. (swapped
variable speed for one speed) The only difference I see is this one
doesn't "ramp up" and "ramp down". I am not exactly sure how it would
really save any money if the single speed motor was tapped to match
the evaporator. Heat is not an issue here.
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:20:58 -0700, email@example.com wrote:
When the motor on my TWE went bad they decided I needed the moror and
the controller board. It was going to be at least $1000. For $210
(including the original service call) they put a regular motor and
contactor in there and it works great.
This was about 9 years into a 10 year P&L that was given away free as
part of the original sales promotion but nobody seemed to remember
that and I couldn't prove it. The tech said I could pay him and fight
it out with Trane if I wanted or I could just stay "down" and fight it
out before he fixed it.
On Oct 30, 10:20 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Ha, the worst furnace I ever owned was a new Trane (in my old house).
The best furnace I've had is my current Bryant, go figure. Maybe I
just got a lemon or maybe it was mis-adjusted, it short cycled
constantly in heat mode, made a loud "poof" whenver it lit up, pretty
scary, and my chimney condensate increased greatly after it was
installed dripping down wall under the clean out hatch, and needed
several repair calls. Whereas the Bryant has been one dependable and
quiet little workhorse.
Had you taken the extended warranty...
had a decent tech do a yearly check up...
or a pre warranty expiration check up...
The variable speed is probably saving $15.00 a month, easy.
Take the blame off the mfgr & the climate & man up...
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