We are going to be putting in tile in our kitchen. It currently has 2 layers
of vinyl flooring. Our intention was to put a substrate of some sort ( 1/2
inch plywood subfloor)and then the tile. The question is; can we do this
over the vinyl or must we remove the vinyl first?
If the vinyl was laid on concrete and is glued down well you can tile right
over it with out the plywood. I do this all the time. I did my own house
about seven years ago and have had no problems.
Oh boy, here we go again.
First, google "tile over vinyl". Do a LOT of reading. There are many
sects of religion on this topic.
Second, it depends most heavily on two things: your subfloor, and how
your vinyl is adhered.
Subfloor: you need a really, really solid base under tile. If there's
cement underneath this all, that's ideal. If not, it is a judgement
call on how solid your subfloor is, and likely best to get an
experienced pair of eyes (or two) to help you make that call. From this
side of the keyboard, the best (read: most conservative) advice is to
add a layer of ply *and* a layer of backerboard. Then you get into
height issues (that can be an inch!).
Adhesion: vinyl is commonly glued either at the perimeter (in which
case it's easy, so pull it), or everywhere (in which case removal is, at
best, just plain difficult, and then there's residue to deal with, since
the ideal substrate is not only solid, it is perfectly flat). If the
vinyl is well-adhered everywhere, you might consider leaving it.
While I like Julie's answer, I would not have bothered to ask the
question. I would not want to do all that work and spend all that money
only to find out in a few months I made a mistake and should have done it
right the first time. Even if it did not fail, I would be wondering if it
would. I would do it right and take the old up first.
No by all means not particle board. Use Hardibacker.
At recommendation of an installer, instead of screws I used 1-1/4 inch
galvanized roofing nails every six inches in every direction.
If you have a Home Depot nearby, they often have classes on laying tile or
at least can give you some good pointers..
remove the old flooring so you don't end up with a height problem in the
adjoining rooms after you install cement board and tile.
I like to install cement board with thinset
roofing nails to tack it and screws for finishing it.
the sub flooring is very important under tile.
well, you could raise the countertop.
an easier way is to tile up to it. save about 10 sqft of tile so that when
it comes time to replace it, you just untile it and retile with the saved
it's a good idea to save a bunch of tiles anyway from every job. the next
guy to own your house will thank you.
Amen to that- that is what the little nooks and crannies in basement are
for. When he had his own company, my father always left the partial tile
boxes, a few sticks of trim, a couple switch plates, etc, as spares for the
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