Many have recently filtered out Googlegroups becauise it's become the
overwhelming source of newsgroup spam. That's coincidentally who
wacko_tom posts through. I only see his nonsense if someone else is
foolish enough to respond to his rants.
On Apr 30, 1:44 pm, email@example.com wrote:
Maybe he taken a hiatus after the right propper whopping he got here
last week. I thought it was hillarious after he derided the makers
of plug-in surge protectors and then gave us his list of "real
companies", like Intermatic, GE, Leviton, etc., that were experts at
it. Only problem was, all of the companies on his list sell plug-in
On Apr 30, 3:10 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Trader ignored a reply that corrected his misconceptions. I, too,
would sell plug-in protectors to 'experts' who never learned how
electricity works. If one wants to stay ignorant, then I, too, would
be happy to reap profits from their ignorance. But, effective
protectors are sold only by companies with high reputations. Trader
never understood that part.
Some are foolish as to believe APC, Tripplite, Belkin, and Monster
Cable are responsible manufacturers. Effective 'whole house'
protectors are sold by GE, Leviton, Square D, Siemens, Cutler-Hammer,
Keison, and Intermatic - to name but a few. APC, Tripplite, Belkin,
and Monster Cable don't sell effective protectors. Their products do
not even claim to provide protection. But those who know using
insults would also recommend those APC, et al protectors. I would
also sell trader the Brooklyn Bridge should he remain that naive.
Well, this 'sound byte' is already too long for those to know only
by attacking the messenger. Others who would spend tens of times less
money to have significant protection can easily identify the scam
1) It has no dedicated earthing wire.
2) Its manufacturer does not discuss earthing.
3) It does not claim protection from each type of surge in
manufacturer spec numbers.
All three points identify every protector from APC, Belkin, Tripplite,
and Monster Cable. A grocery store protector is the same ineffective
protector circuit selling for a smaller profit. At a profit?
Equivalent to that profitable $7 protector is a circuit inside that
$150 Monster Cable protector. Higher price means better protection?
Yes, when one would also buy the Brooklyn Bridge. Protection in a $150
Monster Cable product is equivalent to that $7 grocery store
protector. Both protectors make the same protection claims in numeric
Responsible lurkers ignore the insults; instead learn facts. Every
responsible engineering source defines what the effective protector
does: divert a surge into earth where energy is harmlessly
dissipated. Numerous above posters claim a surge protector somehow
absorbs energy that even three miles of sky could not stop. Does that
silly little one inch part stop what three miles of sky could not?
Many posters believe that myth.
An earthed 'whole house' protector means surge energy gets
dissipated harmlessly in earth AND protector remains functional after
a direct lightning strike. Effective protection means nobody knows a
surge even existed. Did you grasp that technical reality - or know
only because others have posted insults? A protector is only as
effective as its earth ground. Three point are provided to quickly
indentify the ineffective (highly profitable) protectors.
Whaaat, you say my Triplights that offer a life time warranty to
damages from from surges and lightning offer non such claim or
warranty, thats pure barf. Triplight surge protectors are only one
step a homeowner needs to hopefully protect you. Ive been hit several
times, anything you do helps a bit. Sure to do it right can cost
10000.00 for protection. But if a storm is commin, even with my mains
lightning arrestor and surge protection, and individual Trip units, I
Actually some things installed will decrease protection - ie the TV
destroyed because the plug-in protector earthed an 8000 volt surge
through it. Gross assumptions are also behind that warranty. Did you
read the fine print and learn from so many others who never got that
For example, some plujg-in protectors state that a protector from
any other manufacturer in the building means their warranty is void.
Another says that if you don't submit the claim on their forms, the
claim may be rejected. Another says reinbursement is based on
depreciation meaning the computer has zero value in a few years.
Another says that every electrical conductor that touches that
appliance must connect through their protector. Did they forget to
mention that a table top is considered an electrical conductor? How
many fine print exemptions make a warranty void? Fine print is chock
full of exemptions. Warranty says nothing about protection.
Steve Uhrig on 17 Jun 2003 in the newsgroup comp.home.automation
entitled "UPS for computer and TV"
Did that protector do protection? Well, how many dishwashers have
been surge damaged during the same surges? How many dimmer switches?
Where are these surges that the Tripplite protected from? Only way
you know that Tripplite provided protection is when everything else -
every smoke detector, clock radio, dimmer switch, washing machine, etc
was destroyed. You have no idea what that Tripplite did. In fact,
Page 42 Figure 8 - the Tripplite may even make create damage to other
items in that room.
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