25" of snow Saturday. The farmer who has been handling snow removal
here for the past 33 years didn't even attempt it. Driveway is 660
and steep but he has tackled this much snow before. Called others
from the Yellow Pages, no dice. Another foot of snow expected
Tues.-Wed. Death by starvation. Never thought I'd go out this way.
The unemployed people all went out and bought trucks with snow plows and
signed up to get listed in the Yellow Pages, but the new edition with
their names and numbers hasn't come out yet.
In the meantime, they're all hanging out on the street corner waiting
for you to drive along and hire them. Got enough shovels?
If we were actually seeing any weather extremes I might believe that,
however the weather we are seeing now matches nicely with the weather we
saw around 30 years and change ago, and 30 years before that, etc. This
stuff runs in cycles and the current crop of global warming alarmists is
too young and / or has too short an attention span to realize that what
we are seeing now is nothing new.
May I ask how old you are?
All I know is during summer I can't see any snow caps on the Rockies
which were there even 20 years ago. Columbia Ice field is retreating
like crazy even you young guy like me can notice. I had to install
central air couple years ago. Korea experienced coldest/snowy winter
in 60 years.
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:47:55 GMT, hereiam@home. (* U S *) wrote:
That's why it's now called Climate Change instead of Gloal Warming.
Too many stupid people think that Global Warming means that it will
always be warmer and never get cold or snow again. "Oh wow, it's cold,
so much for global warming!"
Most of us learned that heat is energy and that more energy in the
atmosphere means more extreme events. And yes, over all, higher
average temperatures. Maybe not where you are right now. Where I am
right now we're getting another big snow storm.
Yup. I'm where it's not snowing, although it "normally" would be. We've
gotten less than 2 inches total from both storms, and the temps are in the
high 20s. "Normal" for my neck of the woods is at least 6 inches a week and
single digits at this time of the year. Everyone south of us is much colder
and much deeper in snow. Been like this for several years now. Certainly not
the weather we had 30-40 years ago. It's certainly not a "normal" weather
cycle like some other poster was positing. When I was a kid we had snow in
November and it was up over the windows by January and we didn't see grass
until April. We regularly had temps of -20F (not including wind chill) or
colder for days at a time. This year we've barely dipped below 0 and most of
the snow melted (lawn is mostly grass) weeks ago. We got a dusting this
morning, but it will be up above freezing soon, so it will melt again. Very
odd winters the past few years. Love it, though.
More heat equals greater extremes? By what law of nature, thermodynamics,
God, man, or physics can that possibly be?
If I add heat to a pan of water I can get ice?
Global warming = more severe winters is a scientific fiction.
About every piece I have seen on "global warming" that had any depth said:
- temperatures are rising on *average* taken *world wide*
- the resulting climate change at any *point* is unpredictable - maybe
hotter, maybe colder, maybe productive farm areas will loose their rain,
maybe.... Weather patterns will change in unpredictable ways.
- on average the energy in the atmosphere will increase - including
moisture which is a form of energy. That can cause more severe storms,
thunderstorms, tornadoes, hurricanes, ... - in short, more extreme weather.
A very large snow storm is consistent with "climate change" - there is
more heat in the atmosphere in the form of moisture. What little I have
seen on this storm is it is like lake effect snow with the lake being
Also consistent with "climate change":
- massive rainstorms and mudslides in California
- drought in the south
- light to moderate rain over at least 8 hours around Christmas in
Minnesota, also another day since.
No scientist would say any of the above is from "climate change". To do
so would confuse "weather" with "climate". Denying "climate change"
based on a snow storm shows a similar lack of understanding of science.
I'm not a climatologist and I suspect that you aren't either. Anyway
The Kool-aid set would scream "global warming" regardless of the
30 yrs. ago, it was the "New Ice Age."
Fact is that there's no proof that warming is anthropogenic, or that
man can reverse it, or that it is necessarily catastrophic.
Fact is that all sorts of recent stories are breaking but being swept
under the rug by the mainstream media about flawed data that
supposedly support the "global warming" concept.
Fact is that the individuals and organizations who are pushing the
concept are those in favor of redistribution of first-world wealth.
Fact is that the climatologists who have expressed the need for more
study have been silenced by the media. I'm talking about scientists,
not Limbaugh, Palin, etc.
There is no "proof" for much widely accepted science, like plate tectonics.
There is wide consensus by experts in many appropriate fields that
anthropogenic global warming is a fact and is a serious risk to the world.
The goal is to slow and then stop it.
The Greenland ice sheet is not only melting, it is melting much faster
than predicted. The rise in ocean level from a melting Greenland ice
sheet alone would be catastrophic.
Ah yes, the conspiracy, including many national academies of science.
Not to worry - it is effectively countered by the Bilderberg Group with
the help of the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion.
I really don't find arguments on science that is backed by a wide
consensus of scientists interesting. The arguments often involve
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