Situation advice requested

"benick" wrote in news:TK6dnQ-TMcyjOKjWnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@neonova.net:

Explain to the owner and see if he'll pay something. If not take him to small claims. Except you'll need receipts. If you don't have any then don't bother. If the owner turns into a real jerk, then report him to the BBB.

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TD
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"TD" wrote

I have called the BBB, and been told that "they don't give out that information" when a company has had bad reports. Anyone who pays the money can be a member. It doesn't guarantee they are a good businessperson. And the BBB is a toothless agency if a company is bad.

YMMV, and all that.

Steve

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Steve B

Hi, BBB is a joke. They don't have any legal authority. Being a memmber(by paying for membership) does not mean a thing.

Reply to
Tony Hwang

Correctomundo. And I find it amusing that some say "Call the BBB on them", like it will do any good, or like the BBB is Big Brother and will go over there and straighten them out. The BBB is a good business if you're one of the executives of BBB. They're usually run by retired or current businessmen who use the organization to network, get free golf, and find potential customers. The public is a lot further down the line.

Steve

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Steve B

It wasn't RIGHT NEXT TO THE BOILER ... it was "near," as in "nearer to the boiler than the freezer." And while you went back to the original post to show this quote, you apparently did not read the one that said that the outlets are labeled "DO NOT UNPLUG." For a guy throwing stones for assumptions, you make a lot of incorrect ones in threads.

Why would I admire a boiler? It's nice, quiet, and I'm while I needed a new one due to the age and deterioration of the old one, it's a functional device. I'm not going to stand and "admire" it any more than I would any other appliance.

How does this make it "totally" my fault? If the unit had not replaced, there would be no problem. If the contractor's help would have not unplugged the unit or if they would have asked, it would not be a problem. I don't deny some blame, but the reason people hire others who specialize in certain jobs is because they should be knowledgeable and experienced in such situations.

Yeah, you're great a piling on in hindsight.

Reply to
tom_sawyer70

Your an idiot who is trying to blame somebody else for your mistake....Now go check your freezer....

Reply to
benick

I see you're coming to understand bennick.

Steve

Reply to
Steve B

Given the visibility I guess you have some fault, but considering it was labeled "Do Not Unplug" I'd have to still give the contractor the vast majority of the blame. Somewhere in the 75% to 90% range, IMO.

Reply to
Ed Pawlowski

My wife and MIL and I get into heated discussions about whose responsibility it is to remove things from pockets before putting them in the washer. I say the person who puts the article in the washer should check for anything. They say no, the person who puts it in the hamper should. What if the article isn't on the hamper, and they pick it up and wash it anyway? Anyway, we have gone round and round.

Is it the person who uses the lawnmower last whose responsibility it is to check the oil before firing it up? I say no, it is the person who starts the mower.

Had no one messed with the OPs plugs, we wouldn't be having this conversation. He even had it labeled. So, I think the FULL responsibility rests with whoever unplugged and didn't plug it back. At some time the person who used the cord had to go back and get their cord; wouldn't that be the perfect time to put everything back the way it was, or at least check and make sure it was all good to go?

I say yes. And I also say it's the person who puts things in the washer and the person who starts the mower who should check things.

Steve

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Steve B

At least spell it right..It's benick.....I thought you weren't responding to my posts anymore ??? Does that mean we've made up ??? LOL...

Look , the outlet in question was in plain site...He managed to think ahead and placed a Post It on the extension cord plug that said *do not unplug* because of it's location near the boiler and the possibility they would use that outlet but didn't bother to check to see if they did..He couldn't bother telling them that extension cord goes to the freezer and not to a dehumidifier or some such thing and it's critical it remain plugged in and told them where else to plug in....Somebody may have caught something on while removing the old boiler and it got unplugged , who knows...Bottom line he must have gone in and made sure they atleast installed a new boiler , though I admit that might be a stretch......Probably more than once and he missed it in plain site...Trying to shift the blame onto the contractor is BS...If they had been told the extension cord went to the freezer it wouldn't have happened and if he had checked on it it wouldn't have happened.....That's not asking much...Common sense , really...Did I pile on a little ?? Yea , but that's half the fun...If you have a thin skin you probably don't belong here....Though it's pretty tame on here compared to a few years ago...LOL...

Reply to
benick

I did not know you labeled it "Do Not Unplug" since your first post did not include that. He should cover most if not all the loss without being forced.

Reply to
ransley

In our house, nothing to argue about. The rule is simple and known. Empty the pockets if you put something in the wash. If you pick up something and wash it anyway, that would be your responsibility as you are the one putting it in the wash.

Right. That is me 99.99% of the time.

You have a good point, but there are many incompetent and careless people. It is amazing how often people screw up and think they are right. At work, one of the ways I earn my pay is to find stuff like that. I could write a book. In the case of the was, you have to be able to rely on others to do the right thing and have responsibility. At dinner time, do you inspect the food before it is served or do you accept the judgment of the person cooking? Do you pick up the dinner plate to be sure the other side is clean? You do have to accept certain things in life, such as the bus driver knows the route and will follow it.

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Ed Pawlowski

You own your own front yard. If he doesn't settle up, I'd just put a nicely lettered 4' x 4' sign in the yard that says,

Warning So and So company does shoddy work. I would not recommend them.

Offering half would have been fair, but offering nothing is an insult.

Steve

Reply to
Steve B

You hang your clothes on the floor and want them to pick stuff up AND check the pockets? Or do they grab stuff from the hanger and wash for the hell of it?

Reply to
norminn

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Don't know how things are in your house, norm, but at mine, we do things out of love and respect for each other. Picking up someone's things and washing them is not out of the realm of our relationship. Leaving clothes in places other than the hamper is no biggie. At times, I come in so gungy or muddy that I may disrobe and leave things in a pile rather than tracking all over the place, or putting oily clothes in the hamper with good things. My wife considers that I went out in the rain, mud, and slop to fix something for US, so she doesn't mind picking up after me. I have seen households where one person will go through and pick up ONLY THEIR clothes, and leave all others where they lie. Whatever.

After cleaning and ironing, my shirts are hung up with the next to top and third button down buttoned. I try to wear some clothes other than underwear more than once. So, if I have worn something, I'll just button the top button when hanging it. When I have worn it twice, I button the third button. At times, my wife will go through my shirts, and retrieve those worn twice when she is doing a load, or needs a few more clothes to make a load.

Sorry things suck at your house. Do you have to do your own laundry?

Steve

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Steve B

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Take your own advice and at least spell it right ... it's "you're" if you are going to insult someone.

Reply to
tom_sawyer70

In our house, the person who has the experience with what's in their pockets on a day-to-day basist is responsible. And if the machine is broken by something left in them, they get to pay or work off the damage. The person who throws the clothes into the wash may be different each time and it's not their responsibility to figure who might have put something where at any given time.

No ... at least not around here. One maintains the mower (me) and whomever uses it assumes that it is in fine working order when they go to use it and that they leave it in fine working order, or at least bring up any questions/problems when they use it (it sounds funny, it runs harsh, it misfires, the tires didn't seem to track as well, etc.).

I generally would agree with you except for one thing ... clothes are different now and pockets can be anywhere. If I'm doing the laundry, I'm not going to know nor care to check who put something where. If it's in the laundry, I'm going to believe that it's ready to wash ... if you need special attention to certain articles, if you need other requirements, etc., I'm going to rely upon the person with the most experience with what they're doing.

Reply to
tom_sawyer70

Actually, the sign's been there for 7 years. For everyone to see, not just in this case.

And as I shoulder some of the blame, I didn't think that someone would be so unprofessional as to not look to see themselves, ask or note it as something to plug back in. As I wrote earlier, when you pay for a job, you expect people to know basic things.

You're again making bad assumptions.

No ... I'm not shifting blame ... I was kicking myself for not thinking of such a thing, but really, I don't account for every outlet in my house every evening.

Piling on in hindsight on the internet is fun?

"...If you have a thin skin you

Why does someone need thick skin to post a question to a forum? Oh, to not get riled up over anonymous posters who have nothing better to do than pile on someone in hindsight.

You're a fool.

Reply to
tom_sawyer70

Shoot....that should have been in the first paragraph of your first post, fer cryin' out loud. Have you contacted homeowners' ins. co.?

Reply to
norminn

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Jim, The reviews point to a low-volume alarm. What is your experience?

Thank you, Dave

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tom_sawyer70

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