You are in love with those abortions, fine. I am not but then I am
pragmatic. I look for "function" over 'design'. Sliders fail on the
'simple solution', much simpler to put in a standard door to accoplish
Where did I say I was "in love with them"? I'm simply posting my
knowledge of them after many yrs in the glass business.
What I don't understand is why you are paying $1,200.00 for a standard
door. You could buy a damn nice set of French doors for that much
Yes it was insstalled correctly and is still four square after all
these years. The maintenance on it is about what can be expected from
any sliding type equipment over that span of years and the _really_
mickey mouse lock mechanism. The ending point is the seals. No
matter how good the installation is you are still stuck with jus a
very thin "brushes" to seal it.
My point is that everythign on a slider is a poor solution/choice over
a standard door or french door.
Curious. Do you have or had a slider? Most people I have talked to
over the years about the subject who lived with one swore they would
never do it again give a choice.
Have to agree with that. My BIL in Canada had the wooden, modern
version. He also got tired of it (never said why) and replaced with
french doors. I suspect that was more a case of 'style' vice
maintenance tho as he didn't have the slider very many years.
I thought about replacing my current slider, 5 years ago with double
french doors. I would have except one stationary window could have
possibly been hit by a swinging door. I declined. The slider is 12
years old and the only work it has needed was new rollers and screen
on the single screen door.
Thankfully, SWMBO hauled the screen to a shop and they replaced the
rollers and screen. Works great!
I even had an Andersen 8' door in the garage (stored). The problem was
the operator was on the wrong side, so I wasn't about to install it
Yes. Three of my previous homes all have sliders (two were rentals) -
the screen was the only thing really needing repair.
A 30 year old slider? I can see it being a pain, but some adjustment,
repair or clean-up is a not a good reason the swear off all sliding
Ah yes, sliding glass doors. The guy who invented those abortions
should be hung!. My wife insisted on one when I put on a big
additions. I argued against it but lost. We have _both_ been cussing
it for 30 years and I am about to bit the bullet and replace with a
standard door at a cost of around $1200. Yes, ours was one of the
Constant cleaning of the track, reepeated 'replace the rollers' fun,
hard to securely lock, pee poor seals at best, etc., etc.
DITTO...Especially here in New England...There are a HUGE heat loss as
well...Repaced mine and the living room is MUCH MUCH warmer...Put in a full
view entry door..Best thing I ever did...Did all the work myself so the only
cost was 200 bucks for the new door and small roll of insulation...Had left
over vinyl siding and I do drywall for a living...
Have you tried to adjust the rollers? Sometimes that is all it needs. Are
you sure the track is bad? If so, yes, the above works just fine, but don't
buy it from CR Laurence! Go to a glass shop and get one along with the
rollers. I didn't even know that CRL starting selling to the public. It used
to be for commercial buyers only.
I made my door work a lot better just by tightening the screws at each
end, that lowered the wheels and raised the door.
Is it worn down? Put a straight edge along the top the middle ridge.
Even rumbling wheels won't wear down the track I think. Pulling the
door open with no wheels, scraping the door along the track, would do
I don't get it. When you click on Larger Image, it shows two designs,
two covers for two sizes of sill. But there is only one part number.
Yep, good eye. Last time I installed one (in the late 80's) it was one
size fits all. I was strictly autoglass after 1989, well except fot
one yr when I got "drafted" to build and install shower doors and help
install mirror walls.
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:09:00 -0400, your kind of guy
Ah, you're right. I didn't have my glasses on and didn't notice that.
And there's also a whole page that discusses the difference:
However you stil have to be careful. The page above is for the small
rail topper. The OP doesn't say otherwise. She says, "for example"
There must be another page on that site somewhere that sells the large
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