First of all, thanks for the suggestion to check a locksmith for the
special door locks that I wanted. I have locks that work the way I
wanted since going that route.
I have another question.
I had ugly wallpaper in my eat-in-kitchen. I tore it down. It wasn't
the normal "strip-able" wallpaper, and I only found that out when it
was too late.
I don't really want to cover the resulting wall with wallpaper,
although I will do that if it's absolutely necessary. I really prefer
to just fix up and paint the wall.
The situation is this: There's some sort of weird wall paper backing
that's still glued firmly to the drywall, in weird sheets/patterns. It
didn't come off neatly, nor did it "stay behind" neatly. I've tried
scoring it with a paper tiger and using Diff. This stuff won't come
off. When thoroughly saturated, it reluctantly comes off more like
damp paint than damp paper. It's quite possible that old wallpaper was
imperfectly stripped off and then painted over, leaving the resulting
mess behind. It's actually two walls. One wall is almost all drywall
with just little (stubborn) fingerlength-sized flakes left behind. The
other wall is almost all paper, with handprint-sized gaps down to the
A visiting houseguest whose reasonably handy saw it and suggested I
might just...err...mud over the whole wall, but, I'm not sure I could
do that and have it come out as smooth as real drywall. I'm also not
confident I could just take down the old drywall and put up fresh
What are some options that just require elbow grease and tiny
financial outlays (like, less than $100)? I haven't tried steaming it
yet, but, I don't know that a steamer will work where the score/Diff
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I've had my share of awful wallpaper, last house had 3 layers (one with
foil in it), then a layer of paint, then 3 more layers. Got it down
with a steamer but it takes - get this - almost a minute per sq ft. 30
seconds of steaming in one place, plus scrapy-scrapy.
The other method is to wet it to soaking and keep it that wet for a few
days, I've seen this done by my painter contractor, and it does come
down, after a while I guess it gives up !
I hate wallpaper. you don't mention how much your place is worth, if
it's a valuable/upscale place, I strongly recommend getting that paper
off however it has to be done because painted-over wallpaper looks like
... painted-over wallpaper.
Good luck !
If you don't mind having to inventively retrim the windows/doors, and extend
all the outlet and switch boxes, you could always reskin the walls with 3/8
" drywall. The windows/doors will require either extending the trim, or
buying or making new casing with a kerf for the extra offset. As long as you
only have single-gang electric boxes, the extenders are easy to install.
(I'm sure there are double-gang extenders, but the big-box doesn't carry
them.) Of course, this assumes you are up to mudding and taping the new
I would take a root canal or a kidney stone any day to messing with a lot of
wallpaper. There's just no graceful way of doing it.
What I did find worked the best for me in removing about ten rooms of
wallpaper is two things .............. a sprayer, and a good scraper.
The sprayer was one of those cheap $20 one gallon garden sprayers, and the
scraper of my choice was a derelict metal kitchen spatula that had just the
right edge and spring.
Secret is to let the spray sit long enough to do its work and get into the
Secondary secrets are using a paper tiger to get the water into some
wallpapers, and using slightly different strategies depending on the
wallpaper (and glue) you are dealing with.
Like I say, there is no graceful way of doing it, and if I had a choice,
I'll take the root canal or kidney stone ANY day!
While we're talking about removing wallpaper - I have a string wallpaper up in
an entranceway. I'd like to remove it and get a grasscloth there instead. Is
there any difference in removing the string wallpaper? Is it more difficult
than regular wallpaper?
I feel your pain. I also have had this problem.
Try a steamer after scoring the paper with the paper tiger (as many
holes as possible). You can buy a small one for $50 made by Wagner I
believe. It works but is slow. The draw back of a steamer is that it
can also soften the paint such that some of the paint will come off
also. You will need to spackle and sand the walls in all probability.
On the plus side, a steamer usually works.
I have had mix results with Diff. Sometime it works. Other times it
doesn't. The trick is is score the wallpaper as much as possible. Also
give it plenty of time and multiple sprayings to work.
I would caution against painting over it since you have strip off the
top surface of the paper. The backing can absorb the moisture from the
paint and the result will be bubbling of the paper backing.
Unfortunately, I learned this the hard way.
Good luck. So far I have done 8+ rooms with one hallway to go. Wit
luck, my better half will never want to wallpaper again. I don't mind
hanging it but removing it is too painful.
Gwen Morse wrote:
If it's one wall you could get creative and put up oak slaths or even
metal and then sand with a circular sander to put in swirls for
texture. The suggestion of re-skinning the walls with 3/8" drywall is
also another great option. Wallpaper can be miserable to remove. Try
a small section first to see what you're instore for.
You can paint right over wallpaper. My wife and I have now done it in
several rooms in our house.
My house is a 1923 colonial that obviously had wallpaper applied to
most of its rooms in, probably, 1923. Literally every room in the
house except the dining room was wallpapered when we got it. We pulled
up a couple corners of it when we looked at the house the first couple
times and figured it wouldn't be too difficult to get it off. Boy were
we wrong. We also tried DIF and ended up just doing a whole bunch of
damage to our walls after finding out it was just layer upon layer upon
layer of paper and trying to get it all off. It was like going back
through a time machine seeing all these different wallpapers. It took
me the better part of a week to get one 2x2 square foot section of our
kitchen done, and by the time I got down to bare plaster, my wall had a
noticeable dip in it from my scraping and sanding, and it was no longer
Eventually we said "screw it" and decided to just paint over it. As
we've gone along we've sort of perfected the process. The first room
we did (that kitchen) didn't turn out all that great but it's still
better than looking at either wallpaper or damaged walls. There is
some bubbling of the paper, though, and some seams.
But the room I'm doing now - the living room - is turning out great.
This room has a wallpaper runner along the top, which means big seams
if I didn't do anything about it. The secret is to sand, sand, sand,
then prime, prime, prime. Sand all over the wallpaper with thick-grit
sandpaper, but especially the seams. Not just the seams, though;
you've gotta smooth out all those little imperfections that the paper
is hiding but that will come through when you've got a flat single
color over it. Then prime with an oil-based (not water-based) primer.
Then sand again - you'll see what still needs to be smoothed out after
you prime. Then prime again. Rinse and repeat until you're satisfied
but for me it has never taken more than two sandings and priming coats.
It is still a lot of work but it is less work than stripping wallpaper
and I honestly think that you will probably end up with better looking
walls at the end of the process. If you've got layers and layers of
wallpaper that just won't come off, you're just going to kill your
walls trying to force it.
All those layers of paper offered protection to your nice, real plaster
walls. I've never had trouble getting paper off - coarse sandpaper to
score it, spray with water, wait, scrape. Messy but no big deal.
In my kitchen remod I discovered all the layers of colors and wallpapers - the
soft green and folky small-patterned wallpaper that looks like the first decor
in 1960, the bright orange-yellow that must have gone with the old
avocado-and-yellow linoleum under the current layer of linoleum, the darker blue
that I painted over when I moved into the house twelve years ago.
I removed a wallpaper border with no problem. But, in prepping the eat-in area
which has two pass-through's in the two walls adjoining it, I discovered the
first wallpaper which was under that. I tried to remove it and that took some
doing, until I discovered that the metal corner beads of the pass-through
cutouts were *over* the wallpaper. Yikes. So, I decided that, clearly, the
wallpaper was adhering just fine to the wall (else I wouldn't be sweating so
much over removing it) and decided screw this and patched what I done so far and
painted over it again.
Short of re-sheetrocking that whole area, that was the only reasonable thing to
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