I am a new homeowner and this was my first time painting a room
(bathroom), so being new at this I made a several critical errors I am
sure... After painting and then removing the tape from the baseboard,
edges of showers, etc. A large amount of paint is coming off with
the tape :(
To add background I prepped the surface with the TSP solution (per
this NG) after patching nail pops so I doubt this issue is with
surface being dirty. Being new I will admit I didn't prime the room
as I should have, another lesson I learned along the way. To help
with the lack of primer I added a second coat of paint for coverage
issues and the paint looks good in most areas except where I have
pulled the paint off...
Any help with why this is occuring? Should I be leaving the tape down
longer or pulling it off sooner (I let the paint dry several days
before removing the tape)? Most of all how should I repair this? Is
patching or priming necessary before repairing?
1) Buy either the best quality masking tape you can find, or the blue tape
specifically designed to come off easily.
2) Remove ALL tape within an hour or so or painting.
3) Primer is nothing but paint without color, and without the ingredients
that produce different surfaces (gloss, semi-gloss, flat). If the surface
you're painting is in excellent condition and NOT glossy, you can go ahead
and paint without priming. But, considering that even the best primer is not
as expensive as paint of the same brand, you have to weigh the risk of
having to paint twice vs the $$ saved by not priming. And the time, of
Generally speaking, if I'm painting over a prior flat painted wall and it's
in good shape, AND color coverage isn't a major issue, I won't prime. If I'm
painting in a place (like a bathroom) where perfection will result in a few
more years' worth of not painting again, I'll prime heavily, and also add
one of the anti-mildew products to the paint. The stuff comes in a tiny
bottle and is mixed with the paint. Ventilate heavily and use a SERIOUS
breather mask, or expect to be visiting the emergency room within hours or
days, based on the experience of two friends.
Yeah....it didn't make sense. I spent plenty of money for super-quality
oil-based glossy paint for some of the garage trim, to be sure certain kinds
of junk wouldn't stick to it. Since I'd rather be fishing, it made no sense
to have to paint twice, so I never tried painting over it.
The way I read it is. The paint isn't sticking.
I don't care what tape you use. If the paint isn't sticking- there's
Screw that. it's unnecessary
Bullshit. Primers do many things, but in this case anyway we are
talking about BITE.
, and without the ingredients
You forgot to mention porosity.
you can go ahead
I'll bet you've never heard of XIM?
you have to weigh the risk of
Prime heavily? WTF does that mean?
Pile it on?
You don't understand what primers are about.
and also add
This would assume you live in a humid climate.
Paints are formulated for different climates.
Have you got other additives you believe in that you'd care to
enlighten us with?
No one that I can see anyway has addressed his issue.
What did you paint over?
Did you rinse well after TSP?
After 10 days or so, can you 'easily' take the paint off with a finger
Based on my experience, it never hurts to remove it right away, unless I'm
painting around intricate details like certain types of molding, where it's
difficult to remove the tape without touching what I just painted.
Never heard of it. My experience and price comment is based on comparison of
products like Devoe primer vs Devoe paints. Apples to apples. Get it?
Do you think a bedroom wall in a dry climate needs exactly the same
treatment as a bathroom where it's humid?
Bullshit. Very few bathrooms have perfect ventilation, even with a fan
installed. You do NOT have to live in any particular climate to make it
worthwhile to add an anti-mildew agent when painting a bathroom.
did you use plain old tape or did you use the new blue painters tape???
that will make a difference... the new blue tape can be left down for
about 2 days without sticking.. if you use the old tape it will stick as
soon as you put it on....
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