You must have an older phone that can't run a newer version of Android.
I think it was Ice Cream Sandwich (? not sure) that took away the
ability to read both the phone's internal memory and the SD card over a
USB connection. Now when you plug the phone in and go into the menu to
change the USB connection type, the "mass storage" option isn't there
anymore. There is a "Media Transfer Protocol" option, but that isn't
always what I want (I may want to just back up the phone's files before
doing something stupid; I may want to use the phone as a flash drive; I
may want to poke around in directories that I shouldn't be poking around
in, e.g. loading a custom color schema for Waze to match my car's dash
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 15:48:22 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
I never understood that stuff.
If you can clarify, that would be useful.
For example, the Samsung Galaxy S3 I have seems to include
an *internal* storage card, called, I think, /storage/sdcard0
(or something like that).
Since I have a lot of space, I don't move things around, but,
be forwarned, all Android OS's up to (but not including 4.3)
lie about the storage space.
There's an entire thread on this in comp.mobile.android,
but, the punch line is that, at least T-Mobile, finally,
at Android 4.3, started telling the truth about how much
Internal storage you started with on your Android phone.
Here are all the memory apps I tested, by the way, and
*every* one fails to tell you what Android 4.3 now tells
Here's are the two Android operating systems I tested:
And, notice how they show the internal memory differently:
Basically, you don't get the truth until you move to
Android 4.3, at least with my one test of the Samsung
Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile.
On Wed, 25 Dec 2013 07:50:49 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote:
Android, at some point (4.1?) removed USB mass storage, and went
to MTP mode. This screwed up all the Redhat Linux folks, who still
don't have a way to install MTP easily.
But, the Google team gave Apple the MTP code, and I think there
is opensource code for the rest of the Linux's, so, you *should*
be able to read the SD Card.
At least, on my Samsung Galaxy S3, on Windows & on Ubuntu 13.10,
I don't have any problem reading the SD Card when the phone is in
Note: You can only set the mode when you're plugged into a USB
cable (just in case you're looking for the setting). The other
choice is "Camera Mode", I think they call it PTP or something
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:58:28 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
These <$200 LG phones are pretty good bang for the buck,
but, they won't/can't compete with the $400 phones.
So, from that perspective, these LG phones are "cheesy".
especially since most people still probably get their phones
under contract, so, they don't physically "see" the $400 price
tag, per se, of the smarter phones.
But I buy my phones outright, and use them as gifts, and,
I've found you can't get a usable combination of the key
things you need at lower than the $200 price tag:
- You want at the very least a 1GHz single CPU
- You want at the very least 1GB of system memory
- You want at the very least 1/2GB of RAM
- You want at least an 800x400 pixel display
- You want at the very least a 4.X Android OS
Of course, for all those things, more is better; but,
I've found (through experience) that, if you go below
a single one of those minimums, you'll have problems
with the phone running apps.
The cheapest you can get a phone that meets *those*
minimums is about $179 (plus tax/shipping) so that's
what I call a $200 phone.
1. You can't get cases for it. It comes with a grey skin, which is
fine, but I'd like something in a neon color that I could attach a
neck-leash to. For this function, smaller would be better. It comes
with a screen protector already attached, plus one still in its package.
I'd rather have a frosted one, but I can order something from China
that can be made to work when these are destroyed.
2. Needs more internal memory.
3. Inability to run apps on the external card. I don't want to use the
phone as an mp3 player, so the utility of the external card is far less
than I expected. This may be an Android rather than a BLU thing.
I'd like to NOT have to push the power button before I swipe to make the
screen turn back on -- The fewer times I have to operate a mechanical
switch the happier I am. Again, this may be an android thing rather
than a BLU thing.
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 14:28:36 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
The 4GB of internal memory is rather puny.
I've also been burned, by the LG Optimus F3 lack of internal memory.
It seems Android is really <really> lousy at allowing apps to be
moved from internal memory over to the external SDcard. Sigh.
It's got annoyances, but I've used it for nearly 2 months and am pretty
satisfied so far. I've made two wifi calls and NO cell calls so far,
which shows how much I really need a cellphone :-( It's basically a
pocket-size tablet with phone capability. I should have chosen a
smaller one, though.
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 14:21:18 -0800, The Real Bev wrote:
I'm buying one for a newly acquired stepkid (sort of), and will spend
about $200 and simply want the most bang for the buck.
I was leaning toward the Google Motorola G; but will compare these:
1. Moto G ($200)
2. Blu Dash 4.5 ($140)
3. LG Optimus F3 ($180)
4. LG Optimus L9 ($180)
You may be able to get this at Staples using one of the discount coupons
they so generously provide via paper or email. I think the price has
dropped since I bought ours.
Husband just bought a Nexus 7 tablet (Asus) from Best Buy. It's
godawful lovely, and based on that I'd be willing to buy a Nexus 5 phone
if I were willing to spend $450. With that much internal memory, who
needs an external sd card?
Best Buy included a code for $25 at the google play store. I told them
I wanted it emailed to my public address because the guy said I could
use it on any of our accounts/android devices. Almost true -- I had to
log into the public account through the 'settings' on the phone before I
could download a paid app, but it worked. I'll set up the Nexus when
hubby decides if he wants to buy anything.
Thanks to Teresa on the google help line who suggested that, along with
looking at wallet.google.com to make sure the $25 was actually there.
So far, so good.
On Monday, December 23, 2013 1:36:29 PM UTC-5, Danny D'Amico wrote:
Are you sure it's just the gps itself and not something else going
on when you're using for mapping? You've verified that by turning
the GPS off? I just bought a ZTE AWE which is a fairly basic smartphone
and I've used the gps and it doesn't get hot or seem to use a lot of
power. The phone has an app that records power usage of various
functions and after a recent 50 mile or so trip it showed "location
services" using just a few percent of the power.
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 06:17:53 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You're on to something there ...
Actually, I have a long thread in the mobile phone groups trying
to track down *why* my Samsung Galaxy S3 gets so hot when used
with GPS in the car.
On some USB car chargers, it gets so hot as to shut down the
phone, with a clear message that the battery temperature is too hot.
This happened in two different vehicles, so, I narrowed that one
down to the charger.
Then I bought the latest charger, and the phone still gets hot
with GPS, but nowhere near the blazing shut-down hot that it got
So, as you surmised, the heat problem might not be as simple
as "just" the GPS being on. The charger may play a role, but,
I'm still confounded as to how.
This is a good point, which, I, not having a data plan (and therefore,
never having worried about data usage), didn't realize until you had
Q: Why bother with offline GPS freeware mapping programs?
A: Saves on data usage if you don't have an unlimited data plan.
A: Works when you have no data plan.
A: Works when you have no cellular signal.
Q: What's the disadvantage of offline free GPS mapping programs?
A: You have to be more clever about your choices.
A: You have to download the state (or country) map online.
A: Most aren't as accurate as Google Maps is.
A: Most aren't as easy to use as Google Maps is.
Q: What's the advantage of these GPS mapping applications?
A: Some have features that Google Maps doesn't have.
A: Some can search in the direction of the destination.
A: Some allow dragging of routes & alternate route choices
A: Almost all have more settings than does Google Maps
A: Most display more information than does Google Maps
(although Google Maps has perhaps the most intuitive display)
A: Some (e.g., Sygic) have really really pretty displays!
Having said that, Google Maps is the standard by which all
offline map programs must be compared, even as Google Maps
is almost useless offline, except as preloaded static tiles.
I just opened up my CoPilot trialware which confirmed
your $7 "Holiday Sale" but I have a question, being a frugal
The offer doesn't explicitly state "TTS" (text to speech)
road names. It talks about "voice guidance".
In the past, I've been burned by buying, for example, the
Magellan Roadmate, which had the one but not the other; and
I had to buy a Garmin nüvi just to get both.
So, I learned, if the box does not explicitly state TTS
spoken street names, then the "voice guidance" isn't as useful.
Having said that, here's the exact words of the offer, which,
to me, imply they don't have TTS spoken road names for that $7.
Worse yet, they "imply" that the $7 is for a one-year license
only - albeit - I have to infer that from the blurb below ...
--- begin verbatim --- transcribed off my Android phone ---
Holiday Sale - Up to 30% off CoPilot
Start the New Year Headed in the Right Direction!
Wherever you or your loved ones are driving in 2014,
CoPilot's got you covered. With quality offline maps stored
on your phone/tablet, and clear turn-by-turn directions,
you cna navigate safely into the New Year.
30% off select CoPilot Premium apps from now until
CoPilot GPS customers - Get 30% off (that's just $6.99!)
unlimited use of voice-guided, turn-by-turn navigation and
3D maps from now until January 6th!
--- end verbatim --- transcribed off my Android phone ---
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