Conceptually, yes. But, in practical terms, it seems like most folks
EXPECT an almost immediate response to a text: "Don't you have your
phone WITH you??" By contrast, someone sending an email seems
*surprised* if they receive a prompt response: "Were you sitting at your
I don't use a cell phone but I can't ever think of a case when I saw
someone "check their texts" ("Let me see if I've received any texts
since I last *checked*"). OTOH, people *do* "check their email"...
Note that SMS (texts) are a *push* technology (your provider *pushes*
the message out to your phone) while email is a *pull* technology
(*you* check with your provider to see if you have any email).
While it is possible to configure an email client to "check often"
and "announce new mail", I don't think this is the normal means of
using email. It seems more common for folks to *explicitly* invoke
an action to "check" and wait a few seconds for the RESULT of that
A guy I work with gets a lot of texts and the phone makes a sound that
he claims is supposed to be an arrow in flight when they arrive.
Personally, I think it sounds like someone cutting craft paper on an
old-fashioned paper cutter. Anyway, it goes Phhhhhhhh and he checks it.
One morning I started getting texts from some confused woman documenting
her progress around town. By the time I figured out how to send a damn
message it was none too polite.
Exactly. Instant gratification. I imagine "texts" will queue, somewhere
(client side or server side) until "checked". So, no need to "jump"
each time Pavlov rings his bell -- they'll be waiting for you when
you get around to looking at them!
We chat with a neighbor-couple pretty often. Almost always, *her* phone
twiddles (I can't tell if its a text or call being signalled as I don't know
her ringtones). If she defers answering (because actively participating in
a REAL conversation at the time), *his* phone will twiddle. If *he* defers
answering (because he's in the same conversation!), then their land line
I always wonder "Who died?" to merit such a frantic attempt to contact them!
When Pavlov rings his bell, my first response is to look around
wondering where the music is coming from. After a few seconds, I realize
it's a ringtone. A few more, I realize it's the ringtone on my phone.
Then begins the search for the muted sounds, which are generally
emitting from the old reusable grocery bag I use to carry my lunch,
tablet, library books, mail, and other crap. By then the other party has
went to voicemail. I attempt to retrieve the voicemail, and manage to
delete it instead. Saves a lot of trouble.
We currently have an answering machine with ringer turned off. Every
day (or so), we try to see if it's fielded any calls. Then, when we have
time, listen to the messages and decide how we'll handle them.
[This is why folks don't *rely* on our phone for anything urgent]
I've been working on an algorithm to passively let us "tell" the
answering machine which calls we want to take and which to ignore.
Once taught, then let *it* decide to delete messages before even
bothering us with them! *And*, know when to deliberately find us
for messages that are particularly important:
"Please stay on the line while I attempt to locate Don..."
I've written some software to implement an NNTP "agent" -- sits between
my Thunderbird "client" and (remote) NNTP "server"... acts like a client
to the server and a server to my client! It examines posts (parsing
the headers *and* content -- so, *it* fetches all messages from the server)
and, based on how I've interacted with that "agent" (acting as a client),
decides which messages it wants to "bother me with".
So, for example, if I never look at messages from Joe Whackjob, it
soon learns not to *show* me any of Joe Whackjob's messages! This is
analagous to a telephone system learning "he never takes phone calls
from Joe Whackjob so, when Joe calls, don't even bother ringing the
phone *or* taking a message!"
This is what a (good) secretary would do -- learn how you want calls
handled and then implement that policy *for* you to save you the
effort of doing it yourself.
Of course, with NNTP, I can look at the content and make smarter
decisions than just looking at the headers. With telephone calls,
I can only look at CID (which can be forged), time of day, and
other authentication mechanisms -- i.e., I can only get an idea as
to *who* is calling, not WHAT they are calling ABOUT!
[So, a close friend can call and try to SELL ME CAR INSURANCE and I
wouldn't know ahead of time that it was going to be a sales pitch :< ]
My kids are the texting generation, so if I want to stay in touch with
them, I text them or they text me. If I don't see the msg right away,
it's not usually a big deal because I get a notification that I'll see
when I do check my phone. If I miss a phone call I'll get a
notification of a missed call, too, and usually someone will leave a
voice msg that I can listen to.
Exactly. You don't *need* to field each call/SMS *as* it comes in.
OTOH, if you knew one of your kids was driving to East Nowhere, you
might be a bit more sensitive to incoming messages while you knew
they were on-the-road.
Years ago, if they had called and you didn't consider their activities
important/worrisome enough to "stay by the phone", their call would
have been unanswered (or routed to an answering machine). So, little
reason why it can't do that *now*, as well!
Yep! I also don't answer the phone if I don't recognize the number, and
that goes with our land line, too. All msgs of the land line go to voice
mail, and sometimes we'll get repeated calls from confirmed spam calls
and I'll just disconnect the call before it gets to the 'leave a msg'
part because I'm sitting by the phone and can see the caller ID.
We consider the phone an "interruption"; it exists for the convenience
of the CALLER! It makes no concessions to the CALLEE -- except if you
elect NOT to respond to its demands! :>
So, we like to discourage folks from using it -- in "passive" ways
(i.e., by not answering, not returning calls promptly, etc.)
We're far too old to be enamored with the idea of sitting on the phone
for an hour blabbering about nothing important. Too many things to
do that are more interesting, personal, interactive, etc. than to waste
time on the phone!
I have no problem letting a machine "tie up" the caller -- and then
automatically discarding the message. It's relatively easy to
detect robocalls -- if the other party doesn't "pause" in their
speech as a response to *your* spoken words, then its obviously a
dumb machine. You can ignore whatever it says.
[OTOH, if you hang up, it knows that it was "talking" to a human.]
I've been thinking about totally removing the answering msg so when the
machine answers, it's just empty air. It's just a short blurb right now
like 'leave a msg', but the majority of the time the calling part hangs
up. Occasionally, we'll get some type of msg that is obviously spam of
Years ago, I had my home phone *listed* -- but under a bogus name
(this allows folks who KNOW ME to find my phone number but folks
who just know my REAL *name* are left facing an effectively
"unlisted" number. And, it doesn't cost extra as unlisting does!).
The answering machine had no outgoing message so a caller would just
You'd be surprised how many (incoming) messages were:
<3 or 4 seconds of silence> "Hello? Is anyone there??"
followed by a hangup. Friends, of course, would know what
to expect and would leave a message or "announce themselves"
if I was waiting for their call (using the machine to "screen"
I always considered it amusing that folks required the outgoing
message to KNOW that they were talking to an answering machine.
I.e., the beep by itself wasn't enough of a (reassuring) cue!
Time to juice some more lemons...
Our MD's, their office staff, etc. all gladly leave voice mails.
I suspect they are smart enough (and self-interested enough!)
to NOT want to have to "try again later". Leaving a message
allows them to claim they have "done their job" -- even though
there is a possibility that they may have misdialed! (they
usually don't leave any information -- besides our first names -- that
would let some misdialed recipient figure out who they are talking about)
A somewhat viable approach is to program the answering
machine to start with the IC SIT code, followed by a couple
of seconds of silence before you record the message. This
may trigger some autodialers to remove the number from their
Audio samples at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_information_tones
It doesn't work. Most robodialers don't even bother to *listen*
for the caller's voice -- they just rattle off their spiel
"unconditionally". At times, I wonder if they keep rattling
even after you've hung up (in some places, the call isn't
disconnected until the *caller* hangs up; you could conceivably
pick the receiver back up and hear them still blathering...)
IMO, you need control on *your* end of the line, not theirs.
I.e., don't count on them to stop calling. Instead, stop
*answering*! And, if you do answer, be selective about when
you "ring through" vs. route to voice mail vs. decide it was
a mistake to answer! :>
On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 4:51:24 AM UTC-8, Don Y wrote:
I have carried a CP since the early days when they got affordable. I only
carry it whenI am out in the boonies cutting wood with no one around or whe
n driving out of town. For emergency use only. My total use all these yea
rs, one I am on my 5th, one lost in the boonies, 2 in the wash and one forc
ed change by the carrier, isn't over 15 minutes. Twice it failed me, Batte
ry either dead or died in use. Saved me twice, both times flat tires,
The last time I washed one, I discovered that the provider wouild sell me a
new flip phone (didn't even know they made thame anymore) for $1.00. Yep,
just one dollar for a new phone. They did charge for a $40 "upgrade" but
it was required anyhow.
Worse case I ever seen for someone tied to the hing was a co-worker, He wa
s on it constantly, checked his phone first thing entering the office altho
ugh we all knew he had just checked it before getting out of his car.
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