In the market for a decent small 2 cycle chainsaw. Have searched Google,
but this is a new year and thought maybe there's some new recommendations.
I have/had a 14" Crapsman about 25 yrs. old. Did the ultimate no-no and
loaned it out. It came back froze solid, the person "thought" they could
get by running it on straight gas! The saw did its duty over the years, and
I think I have to have the funeral for it.
Anyways, looking for something that will get light use for about 20 hrs. a
If you want a good small saw, get an Echo CS-3000. It is a light weight
top-handle saw, and it's what all the tree trimmers here use. I've had
one for about 6 or 8 years and I love it. My big saw is also an Echo,
but most of the tree trimmers use Stihl for their big saws.
This is Turtle.
You might not be interested in quality but if so just get you a Stihl MS-310
with standard 18" bar to cut anything and run it a life time without loaning it
to your friend with no 2 cycle oil.
Once a year or so when I need a saw, my Homelite PS-33 works nicely. Rebuilt
unit, and got it at Sam's Club. About $130. Not great, but it's good fun the
once in awhile I use it.
Last summer, my church had a work project. I learned that I need to check
the chain tension every time I gas up. Somewhere into the second tank, it
threw the chain. Ah, well. I wasn't the only fellow there who threw a chain,
so it didn't feel so bad.
A shame really. Homelite used to be really good stuff. My Father's already
told me he's tuned one up for me to have. Now anytime you can hand a
chainsaw down from generation to generation...that's quality. Can you
imagine, I'll be the 3rd generation owner of this saw.
This was such a detailed, well researched post I saved it.
If you want more, go to google groups- notice the date (there were
several related posts under slightly different subject lines a few
This is Turtle.
Well I read all the reply this evening and went to the Stihl / Huskey
place and sized up what I needed. I ask him about durability / Power /
this Damn thing back broken or burnt up / Bar size verses horse power
Huskey or Stihl ? Here is what he said and put with what I read here
to get the
one I wanted.
He said :
1) He seemed to see very few MS-310 -- 4.0 H.P. come back for any
all but seen a larger number of MS-361 or C -- 4.3 H.P. or MS-390 --
4.3 H.P. or
bigger and then up to the MS-660 at 7 H.P. or bigger before he starts
to see no
2) He said if he was cutting trees for a living he would go ahead
MS-390 because of the .3 H.P. more but if you was cutting about a tree
stick with the MS-310 for you don't need the speedy cut to make a
living and he
just does not see many of them come back for repairs at all.
3) He said he seems to think that when you break the 4.0 H.P. level
engines it may put a strain on the engines or something like that. He
if you break the 4 H.P. level you have to go to the MS-660 -- 7 H.P.
not see them come back for repairs. He said this 4 to 7 H.P. engines
have all the trouble with very little below 4 h.p. and 7 h.p. and up.
added the Huskey had the same problem that he seen the same thing as
verses the 4 h.p. to 7 h.p. engines. Outside this range he sees very
4) He did not recommend any Bar lengths over the 18" on the MS-310
MS-390 because of loads to the engine and cutting ability. The 18''
bar was all
the teeth per wood surface you would want as to not lug the engine
20"+ bars started to load up the engines and cause the engine to lug
loaded up cutting. The Bar length does play a part in the longivity of
engine and having trouble or engine malfuctions.
5) He said the 18" Bar would not jam in the 36" tree [ end cutting
would ] and I could cut both sides and what was left in the middle
off. It did just what he said. To get the longer bar i would need the
could cut up to with a 36" bar and still have the horse power to not
6) The worst thing to do to a saw is to just use it every once in a
put it up for long periods of time and if i could , use it as much as
The oil from the gas will keep the bearing and parts oiled up and
setting it up
let the oil drain off of the cracks and holes where you need the oil
worked down into. Running it keeps the oil worked down into the place
really need it.
After sizing up everything that was said here and there. I ended up
MS-310 with a 18" Bar and come home and started butchering that tree.
about two hours and 5 tanks of gas and oil and it Got-R-Done. I think
i got the
right size of saw for cutting something like this but time will tell
duriability. I wished I could look out 2 or 3 years from now and see
saw, but i will have to wait and see.
I would like to say thank you to all the hands that spoke here and
helped out on
this project. Thank You Thank You Thank You.
I have a small (14" bar) Stihl that has taken a lot of use and still
works great. I also bought a Husqvarna 455 Rancher this year but
haven't had to use it (usually by this time of the year I've had at
least one tree down in the driveway. Feeling lucky so far).
"I've been here, I've been there..."
No such thing- Deere does not make saws. Most such I've seen (YMWV)
are actually Poulans. Not a problem here- still have a 25-yr-old that
runs like new after many hundreds of hours' use, besides a
current-generation lightweight that I've come to like very much.
Priced waaay below the Yurpeens.
Charly Crash wrote:
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