There's "remodeling" and there's "rebuilding."
Paint and a few new appliances/cabinets can be considered to be
Add new walls with new tiles and the underlying new electrical and
plumbing, new cabinetry, and expensive SS appliances, and it's in
"rebuilding" territory. Skilled craftsmen just add to the cost.
About 30 years ago I remodeled 2 kitchens in my 2-flat.
They were 1920's era kitchens, with no cabinets. Large pantry.
I just patched some plaster, painted, and added about 18' of floor to
ceiling cabinets and countertop to each kitchen. That included sinks
and dishwashers. Formica clad cabinets and countertops.
Cost me about $5k, but my brother got the cabinets with his GC
license. Would have been $10k retail. Without labor.
You pay a lot for skilled labor.
Contractor cost markup takes a big bite.
The main rebuilding was done 25 years ago when I gutted the kitchen and
as mentioned put in 5/8" drywall. This was mostly a remodeling
project...but I did have to remove a bit of drywall to add more
Yep, for a contractor to have done that would have been costly.
One thing I've also noticed about contractors is that sometimes they
just don't show up.
I've made verbal deals (with no down payment) to a number of contractors
and they just plain never showed up.
Worse would be that they'd decide to quit in the middle of a job.
Yup that is very frustrating. I have had guys come out, plan the whole
job, tell me how badly they need the work and then drive away, never
to be seen again.
It happens, Remember when you pay them, they are done. No reason to
come back. Be sure to hold back enough money to get them back and
never pay for something that isn't finished. Buy your own materials
and have them delivered to your job. Don't front up "material" money.
On 09/10/2015 09:51 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
The guy who did my roof, replaced the roof on the house and the roof on
the front porch...but did not do the back porch.
He did not charge me for it...but it took me at least six months to get
him to come back and do it.
He was a good guy though as I told him I did not have quite enough money
to pay for the entire job all at once...so he held the bill for *six
months* and did not tack on any add'l fee...So I could not complain too
much about the back porch.
And, often contractors *think* they know more than they actually *do*!
And, hire grunts who know even LESS!
We had A/C installed many years ago. The house had been built with
this in mind. A 4" (6"??) pipe is buried under the slab that extends
from a location outside teh south side of the house and terminates
in the "furnace room". I.e., it's intended for the refrigeration lines
to pass through that tube after the house had been built atop it.
Pipe/tube is not a straight run. Rather, like a "limp" dog leg:
Of course, as this is *below* the slab, the pipe also has a twist
*upward* (i.e., out of your display as viewing this) at the
Passing a 1.25" dia copper pipe through this tube is a chore as the
pipe really doesn't *want* to bend; it has to be coerced to do so.
The bozos that came to install this stuff spent *hours* trying to
get the pipe through the tube. The self-appointed "einstein" of
the group eventually, CONFIDENTLY announced that our "house was
built wrong" -- depite the fact that you can *walk* to similar homes
*with* installed A/C in the neighborhood!
Turns out, they were trying to PUSH the pipe through the
tube FROM THE FURNACE END -- despite my telling them to do it
from the *outside* end ("Oh, but it's so much cooler working
INSIDE the house than sitting out in that hot Sun!").
Think about it: you *push* the pipe into the furnace-end opening.
After a foot, or so, it has to bend 45 "up" degrees to transition
to a horizontal orientation to travel along the underside of the
slab. Then, after 3 feet, it has to bend "right" to pass through
that portion of the dog-leg. Then, 30 feet straight out.
But, it's not a FLEXIBLE pipe! So, once bent, it wants to *stay*
bent! At the same time, new portions of pipe *need* to bend
to follow along after the earlier portions of pipe. So, the
more pipe you have in the tube, the harder it is to push!
Solution: feed the line through from the *outside*. While it
is still outside the tube, you can carefully straighten it so
it will travel that ~30 feet unimpeded. Then, when it encounters
the dog leg AT THE END of it's travels, you only have to get
a few *feet* to bend through that transition region. Additionally,
don't just *push* the pipe but also *pull* it from the furnace
Or, show up and get started -- just enough to "get you pregnant". Then,
chase after OTHER jobs figuring they can come back to finish yours, later.
You, of course, have no recourse (unless you've set performance goals in
your WRITTEN contract).
So, I've been fabricating supports out of 1/2 x 3/4 cold rolled
steel bars in which I've drilled holes every inch along the
length. A bracket on the underside of each shelf will spring-load
pegs into these brackets (two on each side) so the shelf won't
be able to move up, down or in/out until they are retracted.
Where did you get the spring-loaded pins, that's a fantastic idea and those pins could be used in many places?
On 9/10/2015 6:35 PM, email@example.com wrote:
Originally, I considered using bullet catch's as they could be installed
as "blind" hardware. But, they won't support the load (weight) -- a
natural consequence of their design!
You also need a way of "retracting" the pins in order to remove/relocate
the shelf. I.e., AS IF there was a little "lever" on the pin that you
could grasp to pull the pin back out of the hole in the support.
Rather than looking for something special/custom, I just opted to use
Place shelf in position (this is actually difficult because the shelves
are pretty heavy and you have ANOTHER shelf -- with stuff on it -- below
the shelf you are installing); slip one bolt out into its mating hole in
the upright support; move to the diagonally opposing bolt and engage it
with its support; then find the other bolts and finish up.
You can also use "security bolts" for doors (the sort that slide into
the door frame to hold the top and bottom of a door in place). These
are available in concealable forms (i.e., you'd embed them *in* the sides
of the shelves). But, that adds a lot of cost and makes the shelves thicker
to conceal the bolts.
You also have to consider how you will be fabricating the supports.
E.g., if the bolt you choose has a square profile, how are you going
to "perforate" the support with all these SQUARE holes?? :-(
Had the whole gang over last night including the $60,000 kitchen guy and
people who had seen his kitchen...I think they were all impressed with
our low-budget wonder.
One of the people there whispered to me that his wife got an inheritance
and the kitchen is where the money went.
If I got a $60k inheritance, I still would have done our budget
kitchen....thrown one hell of a party and taken a nice vacation...then
invested the remaining $50k
BTW: One guy got drunk and spilled red wine on one the the newly
upholstered kitchen chairs. Though my wife got the stain out she was not
Sheesh...you get a new kitchen with a lot of people drinking and
something is going to happen. This was pretty minor.
One of the women who was over actually has a video of herself setting
firecrackers off on her dining room table. I somehow suspect heavy
drinking was involved.
Congratulations! Though I suspect some of the husbands will start harboring
ill thoughts towards you as their wives pester them with "Why can't WE (which
is code for YOU) do something like that? I'm tired of this old wallpaper
and we could use some new appliances..." :>
Turkish pistachio nuts for XMAS. By far, the BEST gift!! (despite the
fact that I had nothing to show for it, later)
*Or*, buy 3,000 pounds of pistachios!!!!!
Next time, make a very visible point of serving him WATER! Let others
wonder why (and dare to ask!)
One wonders hat she'll be naming the newborn, come May...
I love pistachios...Will have to get some the next time I go to the store.
Once in California a bought a whole shopping bag full of them ...cheap!
He is not a wine drinker...he knocked over the red wine reaching for his
bottle of Jack Daniels.
BTW: He called this morning to apologize and offer to pay for the damage...
I told him...no problem...stain came out.
She is a bit crazy...even for one of my friends she is "way out there"
She would not get away with that here of course
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