Three new toilets in three new bathrooms in a new addition. All
built/installed by the same contractor. The only known difference is that
the three toilets are different models. Two of them work with nary a hitch.
One of them clogs on solid matter 4 out of 5 times, going on months now.
Plunging eventually works. Sometimes just waiting a few hours and trying
again works. Usually, though, it takes plunging.
I'm presuming that the pipes into which the three toilets empty are a
standard, equal, size, since I imagine (but don't know) that toilets are
built to fit a standard pipe. Therefore I'm presuming the persistently
clogging toilet is itself to blame, not the pipe into which it empties,
since the other toilets do not have the same problem. I'm ready to throw
out the offending toilet and get another one, but don't want to do so if
expert opinion suggests I might have overlooked something. Have I?
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We had trouble with all three of our toilets until we changed to a cheaper
brand of toilet paper.
We always used Charmin in our old house, but when we moved into our new home
we had nothing but trouble until my son-in-law suggested we try a cheaper
brand of toilet paper.
We bought the cheapest brand we could find, and have had no more flushing
Maybe the toilet maybe not, price doesnt make a good performing
toilet. CR tested maybe 25 of them and rated them and show price
doesnt matter. In an apt in 07 I put in 12 of HDs 59.95 Glacier Bay,
the cheapest ones they had and all work great. A big glazed trap is
needed with low flush units, read CR and try a new one and hope its
not the pipes.
Hopefully the contractor used an experienced plumber. If the drain is
not vented properly it will never flush the way it should. First
thing I would do is call the contractor and ask him to come check it
One thing you can do on your own is completely fill the sink in the
offending bathroom then let it drain. Observe the water in the bowl
of the toilet, it should not move. If the water in the toilet moves
then you most likely have a venting issue.
New toilets are all low volume flush. By law only low flush can be sold or
installed. Ours will clog if anyone has a super dump. We now flush
immediately before the stuff has a chance to settle into a heavy mass. No
more clogs. Solution was to make whoever clogged it use the plunger - this
helps them remember to flush right away.
Since 2 out of 3 toilets are working fine there is likely a problem of poor
venting or too low a slope to that pipe but the above solution may work
well enough or at least until you get problem solved.
Settle into a heavy mass? I've never seen that. Even if it sinks,
I've never seen it mass together. Are you and I that different?
BTW FWIW, I've also never had a stopped up toilet in 60 years and I've
used Charmin most of time with 3 Eljer toilets in this house, a
flushometer in NY,
Charmin is more expensive iirc but the compensating advantage of
Charmin is I don't need 12 or 18 inches of it, I can use less length.
I keep an empty coffee-can; when looks like it's needed,
I fill it water, and dump it at the rear of the bowl exactly
as I flush.
A bucket sitting in the bathroom maybe sometimes needed,
with lousy toilet?
You could try swapping the offending toilet with one of the others, and see if
the problem moves.
Or, just get in the habit of pre-flushing the offender before using any paper.
Is there a difference in the usage of the toilets? Different people? Different
I had a somewhat similar experience years ago with 2 newly installed and
identical toilets. The eventual fix was to reinstall the clogging one with a
properly installed and properly seated wax gasket. The prior gasket
installation was apparently not centered correctly, causing the first wax
gasket to act as a partial obstruction.
Single person install, straddles bowl and holds by the rim, moves over
hole and places over the bolts. Can't really see the hole since they're
straddled over it. Anyway, concentrating on bolt alignment.
Hmmmm, let's see. Will the toilet just overflow on first flush or will
the gas rag lodge somewhere on first flush causing blockage or partial
I move my head left and right, to see the bolts.
Of course, d'uh, you have to leave in the styofoam cup that
is jammed into the soil pipe, to keep the sewer gas from
choking you. I knew a guy who did that. He said the first
flush was a bit of a surprise.
I had a similar situation with a Kohler toilet this winter: Remodeled
two bathrooms at the same time, one clogs once or twice a week. I
finally pulled the unit up to have a look at the drain pipe. I had
envisioned there being a rough edge below the flange that was catching
paper. Not so. The pipe was perfect, the toilet, however wasn't. The
porcelain on the inside of the outlet had a series of barbs protruding
into the "flow zone". It looked as if the inner mold for the outlet
piece wasn't closed completely and the porcelain "squeezed" out, leaving
barbs. How this passed the most cursory inspection I can't imagine.
So I polished the barbs with a diamond flame burr in a dremel.
Flushes fine now.
I felt a little guilty about all the nasty things I said about the
plumber who did the install. I suppose no one would think to inspect a
brand new toilet before installing it.
Check "Maximum Performance Testing of Popular Toilet Models 14th
See how the "bad" unit's flushing test compares to your other toilets -
that might give you a clue whether it's the toilet itself or the
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