New Toilet installation

I want to install a new toilet in my basement bathroom.

After I take the old one off I need to remove the old wax ring and put on a new wax ring? And then put something over the wax ring? Finally I then install the new toilet. Please advise more details if possible because I never done it before.

Reply to
teser3
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In 99 out of 100 cases, replacing a toilet is as easy as you described.

There is nothing that goes over the wax ring, although you have some choices - there are different thicknesses of rings, there are rings with a rubber flange and there are fairly new "no wax" sealing kits. Some people double up the wax rings to fill wider gaps. I think you'll be able to tell by how much wax is under the toilet if you need anything more than a standard ring.

I'd buy a couple of different sizes just to be safe. I also always use the ones with the flange. I've never tried the no-wax types.

A possible problem will be the johnny bolts. You can get wax rings that come with bolts and I suggest it. The old ones are probably so rusted you won't want to reuse them. You might even have to break them off. Since you are replacing the toilet, you can be pretty rough, just don't be so rough that you break the shoe (the part in the floor that the toilet sits on).

There are slots in the shoe to slide the bolts out of, so worst case will be to break the ceramic around the bolts so you get the toilet off and remove the bolts. This would be extreme, but I've been there, had to do that. Hack saws, big pliers, etc all work too.

I've also had a broken shoe and had to call a plumber to re-lead a new one on - I'm talking cast iron, I don't know what you have.

I'm sure other will toss in a few other thoughts.

Reply to
DerbyDad03

Yes, clean the flange at the floor as best possible. Place the new wax ring on the horn of the new toilet outlet and then press it onto and into the flange.

Not sure what you mean by putting something over the wax ring - it may have some wax paper around it in the package, but that should be removed. The seal between the toilet and the flange should be only wax.

Reply to
mwlogs

The new 'waxless' seals are the way to go. No more messing around scraping wax, careful seating of the toilet, etc. And they are reuseable (on the same toilet). Pull the toilet and do what you are doing udner/around it (flooring) and stick it back in.

Used my first one 2 years ago. I'll never even look at a wax ring again.

Harry K

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Harry K

Just one bit of advice in addition to what others said. Do not overtighten the bolts on the new toilet. Very easy to break it by torqueing on the bolts.

Harry K

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Harry K

I will add a couple of small bits of advice. Since you are going to be removing the toilet, now is a good time to paint the wall behind the tank that never gets painted.

Also now is a good time to replace the old angle stop valve with one of those new quarter turn ball valves and install a good braided stainless steel supply line.

I personally do not like the ball float fill valves, so I always replace them with a FluidMaster.

Reply to
Roger Shoaf

Good call!

Reply to
DerbyDad03

On 3/30/2008 8:55 PM Roger Shoaf spake thus:

Why bother? Nobody'll ever see it (at least until the *next* time the toilet gets uprooted).

Your other points were good.

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David Nebenzahl

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