Don't call people trolls if you don't know the facts. There are plenty
of building inspectors, under certain conditions, who might condemn a
property, especially low-end building with sanitation problems.
Ah, the old "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help"
routine. I'm fortunate not to have had that done to me. But,
I can easily believe them mandating all kinds of things, for
people who are hardy and well. And then ignoring the real
abuses of the world.
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:27:10 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
In fairness to them, I'm sure there are people whose home situation is
so bad, so filthy, that infection is a real possibility. In fact a
month later on some Sunday morning show about some current medical
question, the doctor said something like, We can't really predict how
well someone will do until we know more about where he's going after
he leaves the hospital.
And my place looks just terrible. And it was enough that the visiting
nurse ratted me out, and I think she would have even if we had gotten
along well. In fact two separate friends warned me against letting the
nurse into my house, for this very reason. But I could still manage
to not let the wound touch anything, and I never got any infection,
even though my raw innards were showing when the bandage etc. was off.
(which was for at most 15 minutes every time I redid it.)
They expect you to do a lot of your own nursing these days. Maybe they
always did. Becuase there was stuff I had to do for four months, too
disgusting to write about, but I surely wouldn't want to be in the
hospital all that time nor could i afford a nurse to come every 5 to 7
days, for what took me only an hour. 30 minutes setting things up, 15
minutes doing it, and 15 minutes putting things back. The visiting
nurse said every 3 to 5 days, the supplier said every 5 to 7 days, the
doctor told me 9 days were ok, but because I was afraid I would do it
wrong and hated doing it, I kept lengthening the time and at the very
end I waited 23 days. Everything always looked the same, however.
The second time, just packing the wound every day for a month. I did
it every second day, but checked that the packing stayed wet all that
I didn't real all the responses, so I don't know if anybody mentioned
this. Here in Tulsa there is a company that relines ductwork. My
impression is that they run some kind of spray hose through and
spray a sealant on the inside of the ducts. This might help if
you can find somebody that does it where you live.
I'm not surprised that you have leaks after this long. When I first
heard about running ducts in the slab I thought it was a bad idea.
It would be real interesting if the OP responded to the many questions
posed by others...beginning to think this is ... a troll?
Is the house downhill from the entire neighborhood? Stream running
alongside the house? Lot graded so water collects? Downspouts where in
relation to the water?
What is exceedingly odd (fishy?) about the situation is that HALF the
ducts have air circ. from the furnace, and half have water gurgling.
Now, in a slab the ducts aren't very large, but for half to be
underwater, something has to be different. Furnace pushing air through
water in a duct so that it "gurgles"? I don't think so.
I know the type of installation he is talking about. I am surprized
they have lasted this long. The ducts usually rust out long before
now. If the house was built in 53 It should have been rusted out by
the early 70s. I know of a whole subdivision built like the OP said.
Some of the houses had flat roofs without even a crawl space fpr an
attic to put ductwork in.
No, this is not a troll question. This is a serious question. Sorry I did
not reply before now. I looked around the outside of the house for problems,
and I think I found something. There is a sidewalk running up against the
house all the way along the back of the house and along half of the front of
the house. There is a 1/2" gap between the sidewalks and the house, so I
assume that is where water could run in. Also, the gutters leak at the
seams, and one joint between sections has separated. So, the gutters are not
working as well as they should. There was no rain during the day yesterday,
and I found that the water noise in the ducts stopped, and there is air flow
through all of the ducts now. So, the water level must have dropped some.
What I will do immediately is caulk the gaps along the sidewalks and fix the
gutters. Hopefully that will keep some water out. Then I'll have to look
into either relining the ducts or moving them. It appears the house is not
going to flood anytime soon. Repairing the ducts will have to wait until the
summer, for financial reasons. But, before long I won't be using the
furnace. Thanks everyone for all the advice.
Is the house in bad condition all 'round? Just asking, since you say
the downspouts are coming apart and gutters leak. That would be my
priority, just from what you have stated and having no details at all
about the house or lot. There is special caulk for expansion joints on
concrete, which sounds like what you need to use. Fix gutters and
downspouts, make sure the downspouts empty a distance away from the
house - NOT onto the walk that is against the house. Does the lot slope
toward the house or away? Had an unusual amount of rain/snow?
I would inspect the ducts to see if you see standing water - if so, find
a way to empty the ducts (pump, wet vac, etc.) If there is still water,
I would run the furnace fan only and use dehumidifier, assuming no more
water is entering. Have you checked for cracks around footers, for
standing water, any especially mushy areas of yard? Check water meter
to see if it turns with no faucets running? Got sewer or septic? If
you are sincerely trying to correct the situation, you need to identify
the problem. A plumber or HVAC contractor would be good for starters.
A good homeowners DIY manual would be a good reference if you are
totally unfamiliar with repairs....I still can't get over the
"gurgling", which would seem to be more likely a sewer line problem...
The fact tht the water went down also means that the ducts are probably
rusted out or have big gaps otherwise. You'd do well to consider runnig the
ducts up and over if possible as you may also be losing a lot of heat in
them. At least now you'll have some time to come up with a solution.
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