I looking for some suggestions on how to measure for crown molding around
an approximately 15x15 room with only one person. I have used up my
husband's patience already and I'm hoping I can complete this on my own!
Would driving a small nail at one corner do the trick? I know this is a
dumb question but this is my first time with crown molding and I'd like to
get it right. (I have a compound miter saw, a compressor and a nail gun -
the tools aren't problem - just the measuring.) Thanks!!
Well to measure for how much to buy, you could use the nail at one end to
hold the tape measure trick (then buy more than required). Or measure at the
But to measure exactly for cutting the piece, I would want someone else
holding the measure at the other end (where the piece will actually go) so I
could get an *exact* measurement.
There are all sorts of new-fangled measuring gizmos at the store. Might want
to see what they have.
"Christine Cato" wrote in message
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:55:05 -0400, Christine Cato
Sounds like you're trying to use a tape measure. Don't. Use a pair
of pinch sticks. Take a couple of straight, light weight pieces of
wood (like an eight foot 1 x 2 ripped in two), make one 45 degree
angled cut on each end to create a point in one plane.
You are going to operate these from near the midpoint of each wall.
Extend the sticks in each direction until the ends contact the two
intersecting walls and make a pencil line across the two sticks where
they overlap. Label this line as "xxxxwall" and move to the next one
and repeat. Four trips up the ladder and you have a permanent record
of the distances between the walls. Realign the marks for a given
wall and measure the distance between the ends of the sticks for your
You may need to drive some nails for supports to keep the ends from
sagging as you work alone, but the holes can be hidden by the
Of course, if you cope the joints, you don't need exact dimensions in
the first place.
Issue no. 152, December 2002/January 2003 of Fine Homebuilding has an
article that would be helpful to you.
I'd start with two nails near one corner: One on the bottom mark, the
other on the top mark, then set the molding on those two nails, slide it
into the corner and nail it up from the free end toward the two nails.
Pull the temporary nails when you get the moulding nailed up that far, a
dab of spackle on the holes and you'll never know.
Remove the dead poet to e-mail, tho CC\'d posts are unwelcome.
Mean People Suck - It takes two deviations to get cool.
Thanks for the suggestions. Materials are already purchased based on
rough measurements. I think what I am going to do is use more than one
piece per run as someone suggested so that I can measure a smaller
distance. Its going to be painted, so I think that will be ok. Its an
OLD house - so measuring at the floor is not really feasible.
As far as nailing it up - its a small crown, so I think painters tape will
support it long enough to tack it up.
Any other suggestions for crown molding before I take the plunge? Thanks!!
In addition to the comments on "how to measure", for pieces longer than
about 8-10 ft make the piece roughly 1/16-1/8" longer than the actual
measurement. That will allow you to "spring" it into place and make a
crisper, tighter joint.
There was an article in FHB not long ago about crown which addresses the
question and has lots of other tips from a pro.
i think you'd have a better looking finished product if you would add a seam
in the middle so you can get it just right. its not the worth the trouble of
fighting it alone to eliminate the seam. JMO.
Lotsa ways, but an easy one is to put a mark on the wall an certain
distance that's easy to add (say 100 inches) from one corner. Then
measure the distance from the other corner to that mark and add them
up. If you're coping the joints, some guys will cut coped pieces to a
certain length and tack them up, then measure between them...
If your measuring for amount needed just measure the floor and add what you
think you need extra. Always get extra. Have you ever done crown molding?
This is not a job for an amateur. You will probably waste more crown than
you put up. I'm not saying this because your a woman. You don't know how
many times I've been called to install crown after the homeowner went
through most of what he bought trying to install it himself.
It's the cuts that will drive you nuts. Cutting upside down and thinking
backwards is not an easy task to acquire. I use a 12" miter saw and a
special jig I have developed to make the job easier. I don't cope I miter
all inside right and left corners with the use of this jig. Makes the
corners perfect specially when it's natural wood crown. Fiber board crown
is a little easier because you can use caulk and paint to hide flaws. But I
usually don't need to do that with this jig.
Do you have a large protractor, in order to measure the angle of your walls?
It has to be a long one. Not all walls are 90 degrees.
"you can lead them to LINUX
but you can\'t make them THINK"
Before you start, I suggest that you make sure that all the pieces of
molding you have are actually the same size thickness. I undertook a
crown moulding project and just couldn't figure out why one of my scarf
joints looked so bad. After close examination, I realized that the
thickness of the 2 pieces was off by 1/8 inch. No amount of caulk was
helping disguise it. When I went back to the big box store, I found
several pieces of moulding that were not quite the same thickness being
sold together. I had heard of color variations in building materials
but never had thickness variation.
For nailing the moulding, I've heard of people using adhesive first,
but it seemed kinda messy to me.
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